Britain out of the EU

[Aquitaine]

And over night the UK lost 20 years of investment. The entire economy is down by 10%.
The British Pound as low as 30 years ago.

Oh my this is so beautiful.

Hey not all of us voted Leave!

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Very surprised at result. Pleasantly surprised. Happy days.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I think the US gov should recall our embassy and close our military bases in England and its dependencies.

Yeah, and you can take all those crappy fast-food franchises with you as well.

 

[oldbadger]

Do you think that leaving the EU means all these 'undeserving foreigners' will upsticks and go back ..... ?


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Where did I write 'undeserving foreigners?
You put words in my mouth?
I wrote that it is Eastern Europeans who are working like blazes on all the tough jobs around here. We have much respect for them matey.
Guess who does most of the fruit and vegetable picking..... Latvians
Lugging timber down the local building supplies?

You made out I called em undeserving.
Naughty. Naughty!

 

[oldbadger]

So what part of leaving the EU do you think will change that? Do you think that leaving the EU means all these 'undeserving foreigners' will upsticks and go back to their countries of origin? Do you think that when they do all these unemployed Britons will wake up and think "Oh Lord, there are jobs out there that need doing and now there are no migrants to do them! I shall apply to sweep streets for minimum wage post-haste!" - especially in an environment where the Tories will be free to repeal the Human Rights Act and not replace it with anything close to meeting the same standard or even at all?



Actually I'm a cautiously optimistic Scottish European who believes the UK (and, more importantly, Scotland) is going to suffer because of Little England Syndrome but that Scotland has a way to finally be free of it. Oh, and I'm reacting emotively to a situation I feel strongly about which deeply affects the lives of people I care for. **** me, there must be something wrong with me for daring to display emotion, right? Thanks for the free and unasked for psychiatric evaluation. I'll be sure to pay in a currency suited to your qualifications, doctor.

Yeah. I got that right.
P--- poor neg attitude cos you didn't get the result you wanted.
Well we vote-leavers did.... We just need to get ready to pull hard now, to get the very best out of what we voted for.
Don't worry...... You haven't got a positive response so you ain't worth worrying about.

 

[Altfish]

The BBC in Brussels at the moment is reporting...

The EU are out to force the UK to leave on their terms, they are looking to enforce Article 50 right now, their lawyers reckon it's possible to invoke it without the UK's consent.

As the BBC correspondent put it, where are the UK leaders? Under the duvet wondering what the hell to do next! Cameron is sitting back looking forward to the House of Lords.

Our UK Commissioner has resigned, he was our protection and a finance expert.

Only one UK leader is in direct contact with the EU, Nicola Sturgeon. She is at least standing up for her people and protecting them from the consequences. If Scotland get's independence in the next two years they remain an EU member. Oil is not the issue it was, they can attract billions of inward investment from England and Wales from companies that want to remain in the EU, especially in the finance sector, and I suspect manufacturing also. The Scots of all political persuasions voted in large numbers to remain in the EU, any referendum held now would most likely go the way of independence. Scotland could even get it's own EU Associate membership ahead of then as one of four economic regions that make up the EU. Sadiq Khan as London Mayor is also seeking an audience in Brussels because the City of London could lose it's EU Trading Passport ahead of the UK leaving and several European banks have said they would leave in that event. It's not all rich bankers who would lose their jobs, it's tens of thousands of normal workers, the PAs, the support staff, the clerical staff, the janitorial staff with the same bills to pay as the rest of us.

No wonder Boris and Gove are hiding - Project Fear anyone, Project Reality more like

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Guess who does most of the fruit and vegetable picking..... Latvians

Tory toffs are all in favour of cheap labour from the EU, it keeps wages down and provides a pool of low-skilled workers to plug the gaps. Tory toffs live in posh areas, not the poor areas where most immigrants live, they pay lip service to concerns about EU immigration but it's all a calculation.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

No wonder Boris and Gove are hiding - Project Fear anyone, Project Reality more like

Yeah, what a pair of sissies. Interesting how Cameron abandoned the sinking ship at the earliest opportunity - can't say I blame him though, Boris and co. created the mess so they should sort it out.

 

[muhammad_isa]

The BBC in Brussels at the moment is reporting...
The EU are out to force the UK to leave on their terms, they are looking to enforce Article 50 right now, their lawyers reckon it's possible to invoke it without the UK's consent.

Well that's stupid .. a knee-jerk reaction.
We have had a referendum, and it's up to parliament when or if we formally notify our intention to leave.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Yeah. I got that right.
P--- poor neg attitude cos you didn't get the result you wanted.
Well we vote-leavers did.... We just need to get ready to pull hard now, to get the very best out of what we voted for.
Don't worry...... You haven't got a positive response so you ain't worth worrying about.

Okay, doc. Good for you. All I can read from your posts is 'Engerlund! Engerlund! Engerlund!'

Have fun postulating victory over phantom enemies, rubbing the result in other people's faces then claiming they have a negative attitude when they don't take kindly to obnoxious behaviour. By the way, can you please be less gracious?

 

[oldbadger]

Tory toffs are all in favour of cheap labour from the EU, it keeps wages down and provides a pool of low-skilled workers to plug the gaps. Tory toffs live in posh areas, not the poor areas where most immigrants live, they pay lip service to concerns about EU immigration but it's all a calculation.

Hi....
OK....... that does fit. The employers are rich farmers, the wages would be tough to earn because it is probably some kind of piece-work. Sure....
I hope that some arrangements can be made for any EU passport holders who have come here and established themselves through hard work and responsible living.
Any Brexit voters who thought this would be an easy ride for easy rewards is going to get a shock.
It's all about a few years of hard struggle to end this journey successfully.
I voted to leave.
I think that Scotland deserves to win Independance and to remain with the EU....... it was bad luck that it did not win this with the last referendum.

It;'s N.Ireland that I'm concerned for.
Do you live in N. Ireland?
Whast do you think about the EU exit vote and position there?

 

[oldbadger]

Well that's stupid .. a knee-jerk reaction.
We have had a referendum, and it's up to parliament when or if we formally notify our intention to leave.

Hi....
Are you sure that we have the initiative on the commencement of exit proceedings?

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Hi....
Are you sure that we have the initiative on the commencement of exit proceedings?

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Hi....
Are you sure that we have the initiative on the commencement of exit proceedings?

The Lisbon Treaty says

1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention.

and then it sets out the mechanism. Any Eurocrat who thinks we can be told when to submit our request obviously hasn't read the treaty. Why am I not surprised?

 

[oldbadger]

The Lisbon Treaty says

and then it sets out the mechanism. Any Eurocrat who thinks we can be told when to submit our request obviously hasn't read the treaty. Why am I not surprised?

Thankyou for that..........
So the shouting about what 'they' are going to do is just EU bull...?
I know that it's going to be a tough ride, but I'm pleased that we voted for Exit.

I'm a bit concerned for some pensioners who have their plans linked to investment companies.
How much do you know about this?
I never opted out, but decided to stay in PAYE and also to save pound coins each month and then buy/save either a half-sov or whole sov each month, according to how flush I was. So stocks and share falls didn't touch me this week, it's the others I wonder about.....

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I think that Scotland deserves to win Independance and to remain with the EU....... it was bad luck that it did not win this with the last referendum.
It;'s N.Ireland that I'm concerned for.
Do you live in N. Ireland? What do you think about the EU exit vote and position there?

I have dual nationality and live in England. I might apply for a Scottish passport too in the fullness of time.

I don't think the referendum result will make much practical difference in Northern Ireland, though the remain majority there might strengthen the hand of the republicans longer term. People living in the North can hold dual nationality under the Good Friday agreement and recently there has been a rush on applications for Eire passports, effectively for European passports because Eire is in the EU.

 

[oldbadger]

I have dual nationality and live in England. I might apply for a Scottish passport too in the fullness of time.

I don't think the referendum result will make much practical difference in Northern Ireland, though the remain majority there might strengthen the hand of the republicans longer term. People living in the North can hold dual nationality under the Good Friday agreement and recently there has been a rush on applications for Eire passports, effectively for European passports because Eire is in the EU.

Thanks for that.......
I think that you're wise to go collecting passports because it gives you freedom of movement and choice.
As you will have heard, some folks are asking if the situation might renew the idea of a united Ireland, but that would, no doubt, upset the Protestant Irish intensely.

What do you think about such ideas?

 

[Ultimatum]

The BBC in Brussels at the moment is reporting...

The EU are out to force the UK to leave on their terms, they are looking to enforce Article 50 right now, their lawyers reckon it's possible to invoke it without the UK's consent.

As the BBC correspondent put it, where are the UK leaders? Under the duvet wondering what the hell to do next! Cameron is sitting back looking forward to the House of Lords.

Our UK Commissioner has resigned, he was our protection and a finance expert.

Only one UK leader is in direct contact with the EU, Nicola Sturgeon. She is at least standing up for her people and protecting them from the consequences. If Scotland get's independence in the next two years they remain an EU member. Oil is not the issue it was, they can attract billions of inward investment from England and Wales from companies that want to remain in the EU, especially in the finance sector, and I suspect manufacturing also. The Scots of all political persuasions voted in large numbers to remain in the EU, any referendum held now would most likely go the way of independence. Scotland could even get it's own EU Associate membership ahead of then as one of four economic regions that make up the EU. Sadiq Khan as London Mayor is also seeking an audience in Brussels because the City of London could lose it's EU Trading Passport ahead of the UK leaving and several European banks have said they would leave in that event. It's not all rich bankers who would lose their jobs, it's tens of thousands of normal workers, the PAs, the support staff, the clerical staff, the janitorial staff with the same bills to pay as the rest of us.

No wonder Boris and Gove are hiding - Project Fear anyone, Project Reality more like

God could you imagine?

The EU would get f*cked so hard in all orifices by the Court of Justice if they tried to activate Article 50 without unilateral input by the UK.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Neither the conservatives nor labour, have an effective leader in place with any idea or plans in place as to how to go on from here.
The entire leardership of the country is in a vacuum.
The only leader with any get up and go is Sturgeon, and she has already started to take action.
Any one with savings and investments has already lost at least 10% of their value. And the real fall out has not started yet.
The workers in the banking and financial world will be hit especially hard. As will farming communities, when they realise that agriculture was kept afloat by EU subsidies. Though they might not care to belive it, if farmers loose half their income, they will not be able to pay wages.
In industry lack of inward investment will mean steadily falling behind, lack of new products and falling wages and employment.
not a pretty prospect.....

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

God could you imagine?

The EU would get f*cked so hard in all orifices by the Court of Justice if they tried to activate Article 50 without unilateral input by the UK.

They will not attempt to invoke article 50
they will simple make life untenable for us, firsly by ignoring us, and secondly by deferring payments and decisions. We will no nonger be consulted on anything. Eventually they will cease all new trade and break all ties with cooperative ventures.