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British Values

Altfish

Veteran Member
I must be turning into one of those Globalists but I will snap out of it.

I'm sure you will

ANTIFA and the Left. What is the difference?

If you don't know the answer to that, I think I've stumbled on your problems.

Yes, Corbyn would be allowed to speak freely at any university and the Right would not try to silence him.

So would May, Johnson, etc. be allowed to speak; it is only those that preach hate. Like the muslim hate preachers you go on about so much.

It is a form of discrimination that only Corbyn or anyone else on the Left can speak freely without receiving a bill from the police. Free speech should be protected for both sides of the political spectrum.

See my answer above, the right is speaking just as much at universities.

I don’t follow football but I suspect it is not just rightwing clubs that get the bill.

Didn't know that football was left and right.

The police should be arresting those Lefties that are doing the damage and the courts should make their parents pay for it.

I agree. If they are over 18, their parents have no responsibility. Of course when there is trouble at one of Stephen's rallies, he'll be ready to cough up too.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
The Left have appointed themselves as Judge and Jury regarding ‘Hate’ and their violent faction ANTIFA are the executioners.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
The police are losing the fight against crime on our streets and are now pleading for the help of the public.

Are the public going to be forthcoming when they know that the self same police could be knocking on their doors with an arrest warrant if a member of the public happens to say something that could be construed as ‘Hate’?

 

Altfish

Veteran Member
The police are losing the fight against crime on our streets and are now pleading for the help of the public.

Are the public going to be forthcoming when they know that the self same police could be knocking on their doors with an arrest warrant if a member of the public happens to say something that could be construed as ‘Hate’?

Project Fear strikes again. or more from The Bubble
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Even Farage is appalled that Stephen Yaxley Lennon is joining UKIP...

Nigel Farage 'appalled' by Tommy Robinson joining Ukip as adviser

Amazingly, even Farage has standards (however low) with whom he wants to be associated.

I am sure that UKIP would far rather be associated with Tommy Robinson than those rape gangs that Tommy exposed.


Gerard is one of the few sensible politicians left in the UK.

We need strong politicians to defend and protect the rights of the reasonable.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
We have gone over this before. We are not boiling our cabbages twice.

Well I'm sure you won't mind pointing me to the post where you name the gangs and paedophiles Stephen highlighted that weren't being dealt with by the legal system since you seem to remember this happening.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Well I'm sure you won't mind pointing me to the post where you name the gangs and paedophiles Stephen highlighted that weren't being dealt with by the legal system since you seem to remember this happening.

There is no comparison as shown here -

“In January 2011, Andrew Norfolk wrote an article for the Times newspaper which is claimed to have formed a watershed. He went back through all the court cases for convictions of groups of men who groomed schoolgirls for sex. Between 1997 and 2010, he found 56 men who fit this criterion. Only 5 out of the 56 men convicted were not Muslims. Muslims are less than 5% of the population, but in Norfolk’s retrospective survey, they were 91% of those convicted. An extraordinary statistical inversion such as this demands further investigation.”

(Peter McLoughlin, Easy Meat, page 99)

The specific kind of abuse that involves gangs luring, gang raping, threatening, enslaving and trading under-age girls is almost exclusively a Muslim phenomenon in Britain. It’s not celebrity Britons, or Australians, plying under-age girls with drink and drugs, dousing them with gasoline, and threatening to burn down their houses, and rape their mothers and sisters. It’s these aggravating aspects that justify identifying Islamic child-rapists as a distinct category.

The liberal left works overtime to deny this. Last year, the Guardian attempted to emotionally blackmail us into believing the “Muslim rape gang” hypothesis is a “racialised moral panic”, in a parody entitled “It’s time to face up to the problem of sexual abuse in the white communityix. The article attempts to convince the reader that, if you talk about Muslim men raping children, and you don’t give equal weight to the ethnicity and religion of white paedos, you’re a racist.

To summarize: how did anti-fascists help Muslim child-rapists?

  • By campaigning for laws against freedom of speech. For example, when the leader of the British National Party, Nick Griffin, spoke about Muslim child-rapists, he was charged with racial incitement.
  • By pressurizing the media to suppress information about Muslim paedophiles.
  • By trying to persuade the authorities to ban marches against the child-rapists organized by the English Defence League.
  • By slandering the EDL, calling it “racist” and “fascist”, and physically trying to prevent it marching to draw attention to the rapists.
  • By organizing within local government to promote anti-racist ideas. When a social work researcher in Rotherham reported on the child-rapists, she was told to “never, ever” mention that they were mostly Asian, and sent on a diversity training course. Thus, diversity training was used as a form of discipline against reporting the child-rapists, which helped them continue raping children.
September | 2014 | the jay report
 

Maqsood

Member
By slandering the EDL, calling it “racist” and “fascist”, and physically trying to prevent it marching to draw attention to the rapists.

It's only slander if it isn't true.

The EDL's usual MO and motive would be to draw attention to the rapists' ethnicity and/or religion, not simply to the fact that they are rapists. Let's not forget the number of rapists and paedophiles discovered within the EDL's own ranks. That doesn't, of course, excuse any rapists and paedophiles anywhere else, and it wasn't intended to, but don't pretend that the English Defence League is trying to defend England from rapists.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
It's only slander if it isn't true.

The EDL's usual MO and motive would be to draw attention to the rapists' ethnicity and/or religion, not simply to the fact that they are rapists. Let's not forget the number of rapists and paedophiles discovered within the EDL's own ranks. That doesn't, of course, excuse any rapists and paedophiles anywhere else, and it wasn't intended to, but don't pretend that the English Defence League is trying to defend England from rapists.

I am not pretending anything. The facts are there for anyone that cares to look.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It's only slander if it isn't true.

The EDL's usual MO and motive would be to draw attention to the rapists' ethnicity and/or religion, not simply to the fact that they are rapists. Let's not forget the number of rapists and paedophiles discovered within the EDL's own ranks. That doesn't, of course, excuse any rapists and paedophiles anywhere else, and it wasn't intended to, but don't pretend that the English Defence League is trying to defend England from rapists.

With all due respect...that's irrelevant.
Of course, if other Europeans learn that in England there has been a significant increase of the rape rate, they will put 2 and 2 together.
That is, in the 80s the rape rate was very low...so it's not credible that the average English male has gone into heat all of a sudden...so they will understand the rapists are non-English.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
There is no comparison as shown here -

“In January 2011, Andrew Norfolk wrote an article for the Times newspaper which is claimed to have formed a watershed. He went back through all the court cases for convictions of groups of men who groomed schoolgirls for sex. Between 1997 and 2010, he found 56 men who fit this criterion. Only 5 out of the 56 men convicted were not Muslims. Muslims are less than 5% of the population, but in Norfolk’s retrospective survey, they were 91% of those convicted. An extraordinary statistical inversion such as this demands further investigation.”

(Peter McLoughlin, Easy Meat, page 99)

The specific kind of abuse that involves gangs luring, gang raping, threatening, enslaving and trading under-age girls is almost exclusively a Muslim phenomenon in Britain. It’s not celebrity Britons, or Australians, plying under-age girls with drink and drugs, dousing them with gasoline, and threatening to burn down their houses, and rape their mothers and sisters. It’s these aggravating aspects that justify identifying Islamic child-rapists as a distinct category.

The liberal left works overtime to deny this. Last year, the Guardian attempted to emotionally blackmail us into believing the “Muslim rape gang” hypothesis is a “racialised moral panic”, in a parody entitled “It’s time to face up to the problem of sexual abuse in the white communityix. The article attempts to convince the reader that, if you talk about Muslim men raping children, and you don’t give equal weight to the ethnicity and religion of white paedos, you’re a racist.

To summarize: how did anti-fascists help Muslim child-rapists?

  • By campaigning for laws against freedom of speech. For example, when the leader of the British National Party, Nick Griffin, spoke about Muslim child-rapists, he was charged with racial incitement.
  • By pressurizing the media to suppress information about Muslim paedophiles.
  • By trying to persuade the authorities to ban marches against the child-rapists organized by the English Defence League.
  • By slandering the EDL, calling it “racist” and “fascist”, and physically trying to prevent it marching to draw attention to the rapists.
  • By organizing within local government to promote anti-racist ideas. When a social work researcher in Rotherham reported on the child-rapists, she was told to “never, ever” mention that they were mostly Asian, and sent on a diversity training course. Thus, diversity training was used as a form of discipline against reporting the child-rapists, which helped them continue raping children.
September | 2014 | the jay report
I don't think anyone on here is trying to claim that there not are issues with Muslim grooming gangs.
BUT if the saintly Mr Yaxley-Lennon is not racist, when can we expect him outside Lambeth Palace or The Vatican protesting at their grooming of children. Also, will the vicar's wife and their gentile congregation be vilified by Yaxley-Lennon because of the transgressions of a few.
If you want to play statistics, work out the percentage who are priests/clergy and the number who are pedophiles...that will make your Muslim figures pale in comparison.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
With all due respect...that's irrelevant.
Of course, if other Europeans learn that in England there has been a significant increase of the rape rate, they will put 2 and 2 together.
That is, in the 80s the rape rate was very low...so it's not credible that the average English male has gone into heat all of a sudden...so they will understand the rapists are non-English.
Nothing at all to do with the fact that more women in the 21st century feel confident/empowered to be able to report their abuse?

That's the problem with bigotted maths; 2+2=5
 
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