Altfish
Veteran Member
I said in an earlier post. If someone, when making a point, uses the word 'Truth' you know they are lying.
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British Values
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Altfish
Veteran Member
I was just showing that videos do take up a lot of room.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I haven't laughed quite so hard as I did when I read that - hence the 'funny' reaction. Thank you.
Stephen (to give him his real name) is not a "thoroughly decent man". Indeed, the fact he's changed his name might make people wonder if he's trying to disassociate himself from something. If that's his goal then it's fair to say he's failed.
Below is a list of his criminal convictions:
2005: Convicted of assaulting an on-duty police officer who was attempting to break-up a fight Stephen was having with his partner in 2004. He kicked the officer in the head; sentenced to 12 months imprisonment in April '05.
2009: Committed mortgage fraud offences - pleaded guilty in 2013 (source)
2010: Convicted of threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour after a football-related brawl; sentenced to a 12 month community rehabilitation order, a three-year ban from football and to carry out 150 hours unpaid community service (source).
2011: Arrested for inciting others to break conditions set for the protest while at a rally in Tower Hamlets (source).
2013: Convicted under the Identity Documents Act for trying to use a false passport to enter the USA - sentenced to 10 months in prison.
2014: Jailed for mortgage fraud amounting to £160,000 over 6 months; sentenced to 18 months (source)
2017: Convicted of contempt of court for filming inside a court house and making comments which could have caused the collapse of a trial involving Muslim men who, at the time, were alleged child rapists. Lennon was placed on a suspended sentence - the violation of which saw him jailed back in May this year for committing further criminal offences (the condition upon which his 3 month jail sentence was suspended in the first place) (source)
Here's a briefer summary of his criminal past
To summarise: Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is not some moral crusader working to right society's wrongs; nor is he a "thoroughly decent guy" as you claim. He's a criminal with a chequered past who is attempting to reinvent his tangles with the law as some kind of witch-hunt. He's relying on other peoples' ignorance of the law and prejudice to revise his own history. He's playing you (and his other supporters) like a fiddle. Look how violently his supporters react to anybody who dares to dissent. No freedom of speech for those who dare disagree with Herr Tommy!
Oh, and he's a former British National Party member. @Saint Frankenstein this might be of particular interest to you if you want to find out more about how far-right Stephen Yaxley-Lennon really is.
Given the conduct of the British political class, that really isn't saying much. And for "trying to silence him" read "apply the law he should understand and show respect for since he's allegedly a patriot".
You called it!
Anthem
Active Member
Actually I really don't care to jump from page to page just to come back and ask, "your point is?"
The purpose of link is to offer either the source or evidence - not to let it "speak for you".
But maybe that's just me.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Someone FINALLY put it into words!
Hey, thanks.Hey Frank, welcome back!
Yaxley-Lennon is pretty right-wing to the point labelling him 'far-right' isn't actually inaccurate. He's a populist stirring up xenophobic sentiment whose current views seem based along racial lines. Specifically he claims to be against child rapists but only ever speaks out against such a thing when it's non-whites who are doing it. He hasn't said a word against a) the Catholic Church; b) the Church of England; or c) the member(s) of the EDL which is his own group who have been outed as paedophile(s).
His position is based on appealing to ignorance of the law as well as courting the rising anti-immigrant sentiment in England. He's so far to the right that UKIP are thinking of inviting him in - something that even Nigel Farage says would show that UKIP are far-right.
For all his supporters claim to be about freedom of speech they sure get uppity when counter-protesters confront them with facts or when counter-protesters show up at all.
I'm familiar with him. He seems like a nationalist to me. I don't see him as far-right because I view the far-right as extremism like neo-Nazism and Fascism, same as how the far-left is things like Marxism-Leninism.
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Notanumber
A Free Man
Do we know if Tommy’s mortgage fraud was on the same scale as Peter’s?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/mandelson-hid-mortgages-from-lender-1103632.html
Tommy went to prison whereas Peter went to the House of Lords.
MPs expenses: Questions over timing of Peter Mandelson's house claim
Tommy might have a shady past but so have some of our politicians. Those that have served their time have paid their debt to society.
Maybe Tommy’s past makes him driven to ensure justice is done and is seen to be done.
He is used to dirt being flung at him (literally in some cases), but that will not deter him.
He has no control over those that claim to be his supporters, but it is obvious that many people believe he is doing the right thing. For all we know the trouble makers could be Antifa infiltrators.
He has supported British soldiers in the past and those soldiers were very keen to show their support for him recently.
It would seem that anyone that criticises Islam is automatically an extremist. Our prime Minister called Robert Spencer and extremist for doing no more than telling the truth.
Altfish
Veteran Member
As my Mum always used to say, "Two wrongs don't make a right".
Notanumber
A Free Man
As despicable as some people think they are, we need strong free thinkers like Tommy Robinson and Donald Trump that have seen through the sugar coating of Islam if we are going to prevent the introduction of blasphemy laws.
The Left need to wake up and smell the coffee and the establishment need to come down from their ivory towers before they sleepwalk into submission and drag the rest of us with them.
Look what happened to the Left in Iran.
Would you like to see blasphemy laws introduced across the West?
Notanumber
A Free Man
If Tommy Robinson is an extremist, where does that put Islam?
When the Muslim Council of the UK heard about this, they immediately demanded that the Army punish these soldiers — and to their shame, the Army did.
Without Tommy Robinson, who would have known that our Armed Forces have an official Islamic advisor?
Stop the political witch hunt against British troops!
When the Muslim Council of the UK heard about this, they immediately demanded that the Army punish these soldiers — and to their shame, the Army did.
Without Tommy Robinson, who would have known that our Armed Forces have an official Islamic advisor?
Stop the political witch hunt against British troops!
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Whataboutery.
Because as disgusting as the revelations brought to light by the expenses scandal are, and as much as we think they should be, they were not technically illegal.
Whataboutery.
And yet his criminal past is still pertinent in light of your highly questionable claim that Stephen is a "thoroughly decent man with morals much higher than the establishment". You cannot be a "thoroughly decent man" and a football hooligan who attacks police, engages in identity theft, mortgage fraud and other assorted crimes.
If he was a thoroughly decent man he wouldn't have committed those crimes in the first place. For ****'s sake; the passport one was completely avoidable. He used his friend's passport to enter the States, stayed a day once he realised they were on to him and left using his own passport which he had with him the whole time. Why the **** didn't he just use that one to start with?
Or in reality he's just a habitual criminal trying to play himself off as some righteous crusader.
Aww, the poor persecuted baba
That's a crock of **** and you know it. Whenever Stephen finds something to get upset about his supporters get upset about it too and will protest if he tells them. The claim that Stephen has no control over his supporters borders on deceitful.
'Many people' can still be (in this case are) wrong. Why stop with just the Antifa trope? Maybe they're crisis actors paid for by George Soros and the New World Order as to stop the anti-globalisation agenda
It's far more likely that Lennon's appeal to the working classes & white outrage, combined with both his encouragement of ignorance of the law and the fact some of his supporters will be from his football-hooligan background, it's not really surprising his supporters get violent.Oh stop it. Stephen is not a victim save for his own inability to control his temper and act according to the law. He's not being persecuted and this notion that he's some sort of martyr because he doesn't get to say what he wants whenever he wants without consequence is so childish.
Hold the **** up. Stephen Lennon is not a free thinker; strong or otherwise. Neither is Trump. Free thinkers would encourage people to review the facts of a situation for themselves, analyse them and come to their own conclusions. Neither Lennon nor Trump do this. They appeal to populist outrage and ignorance of the law while engaging in dog-whistle racist politics and encouraging reactionary xenophobia. That is the polar opposite of free-thinking.
The fact you think both these men are "strong free thinkers" shows you have no understanding of what free-thinking is.
Scotland already has a blasphemy law. Introduced by Christians and kept in place thanks to pressure from the Church. So does Ireland though they're working on repealing theirs.
If blasphemy laws are introduced anywhere it'll be on the international stage where Lennon and his band of hooligans have no influence; the only way for Islamic countries to force it on the rest of us would be through the UN courtesy of the OIC. Lennon's provincial populist outlook won't change that.
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Altfish
Veteran Member
You do sprout some rubbish NAN.
I know facts are inconvenient at times but it was a left wing Government under Gordon Brown who in 2008 scrapped the UK's blasphemy law..
Why do you think I would like them reintroduced? It is not going to happen despite what your scaremongering bubble say.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I agree with this politician and it is another reason I will be voting for them in the next General Election –
It has been revealed that the British Army has launched an investigation into a photo and video of political activist Tommy Robinson with a group of British Army cadets.
The cadets are seen smiling in the photograph and chant Tommy Robinson's name in the video posted to social media.
UKIP Leader Gerard Batten commented:
"British Army cadets are brave patriots who have made the noble decision to fight for Queen and Country.
"Tommy Robinson has put his life and liberty on the line campaigning against the worst excesses of literalist Islam and these cadets recognise that. It's a disgrace that the military establishment has once again caved in to pressure from the cult of political correctness and has ordered an investigation. By calling Tommy Robinson 'far-right' the military demonises anyone who stands up to defend Western values.
"Any disciplinary action against these cadets will send a clear message that our military establishment no longer stands for defending the values which made our country the greatest in the world."
UKIP Leader stands up for British Army cadets supporting Tommy Robinson
There is no way I could vote for any of our three major parties anymore. They have submitted to Islam.
If I had two votes, I would vote for Anne Marie Waters as well. These are the only two parties that talk any sense.
It has been revealed that the British Army has launched an investigation into a photo and video of political activist Tommy Robinson with a group of British Army cadets.
The cadets are seen smiling in the photograph and chant Tommy Robinson's name in the video posted to social media.
UKIP Leader Gerard Batten commented:
"British Army cadets are brave patriots who have made the noble decision to fight for Queen and Country.
"Tommy Robinson has put his life and liberty on the line campaigning against the worst excesses of literalist Islam and these cadets recognise that. It's a disgrace that the military establishment has once again caved in to pressure from the cult of political correctness and has ordered an investigation. By calling Tommy Robinson 'far-right' the military demonises anyone who stands up to defend Western values.
"Any disciplinary action against these cadets will send a clear message that our military establishment no longer stands for defending the values which made our country the greatest in the world."
UKIP Leader stands up for British Army cadets supporting Tommy Robinson
There is no way I could vote for any of our three major parties anymore. They have submitted to Islam.
If I had two votes, I would vote for Anne Marie Waters as well. These are the only two parties that talk any sense.
Altfish
Veteran Member
You will be pleased to know that one of the soldiers in Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's video is to be discharged...
Soldier grinning in video with Tommy Robinson 'to be discharged from army' | Metro News
Many of the unemployed people is your Stephen.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Priceless. Absolute priceless drivel and whipped up hatred.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I have already reported that. You are not paying attention.
Notanumber
A Free Man
You call it hatred. I call it facing the facts.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Earlier you used the word TRUTH, now it is the word FACT.
But neither time do you back it up with independent evidence, just more drivel from your bubble.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Correct. I'm not paying attention to your plethora of posts.
I beg your forgiveness for missing one - at least I try and answer/respond - you just change the subject with more bile.