Buddhists, is this true?

[Shantanu]

I am responding to your in response to my post. You apparently needed clarification.

It seems common for religions to legitimise themselves by attaching themselves to future or past events such as Amitabha, Old Testament-New Testament and Islam, Second coming of Christ, Dasa Avatars, etc.

 

[ajay0]

From another thread ...


"And another teaching of Buddha’s is for His followers to turn to Baha’u’llah when He comes and I have remained faithful to that. He called Baha’u’llah ‘AmitAbha Buddha. Abha is a derivative of Bahá. Buddha said to turn to Him when He appears and I have done that."

I am curious as to what Buddhists think of this. Is it true?

Wow. That's so cool.

By some sheer coincidence, Buddha had also taught that his disciples including the Bahais should loan 10 million dollars and a ferrari and porsche to Ajay0 when He comes, or else they will not get Nirvana and will go to hell.

I really don't like gifts, but I am ready to make an allowance on this one, as I don't like anyone going to hell becoz of me.

 

[shunyadragon]

It seems common for religions to legitimise themselves by attaching themselves to future or past events such as Amitabha, Old Testament-New Testament and Islam, Second coming of Christ, Dasa Avatars, etc.

What you call attachments is to the Baha'i Faith simply believing in the relationship of ALL humanity through the spiritual evolution of progressive Revelation in their relationship with God and God's Creation since humans first became human in the distant past based on the principle of the Oneness of humanity both physically and spiritually. The importance of understanding of the Oneness and unity of humanity and spiritual principles for humanity is most definitely in the NOW of our existence.

 

[shunyadragon]

Wow. That's so cool.

By some sheer coincidence, Buddha had also taught that his disciples including the Bahais should loan 10 million dollars and a ferrari and porsche to Ajay0 when He comes, or else they will not get Nirvana and will go to hell.

I really don't like gifts, but I am ready to make an allowance on this one, as I don't like anyone going to hell becoz of me.

I have never heard of Buddhists believing this unless it is some wacko cult.

The Baha'is have never believed such a foolish thing. Baha'u'llah spent most of his adult life in exile, prison, and house arrest, and all his material belongings were taken from him and his family were taken by the governments.

Both the Baha'is and Buddhist believe in detachment from physical wealth, and against materialism.

 

[Shantanu]

Baha'u'llah spent most of his adult life in exile, prison, and house arrest, and all his material belongings were taken from him and his family were taken by the governments.

Baha'u' llah could not look after himself and created so many enemies so how can he preach anything that would look after all humanity: have you thought of that?

 

[dfnj]

From another thread ...


"And another teaching of Buddha’s is for His followers to turn to Baha’u’llah when He comes and I have remained faithful to that. He called Baha’u’llah ‘AmitAbha Buddha. Abha is a derivative of Bahá. Buddha said to turn to Him when He appears and I have done that."

I am curious as to what Buddhists think of this. Is it true?

Yes, people turn. I believe it is true.

 

[Vinayaka]

I can see you are uncomfortable and disingenuous to others who believe differently.

Nope, just observations for a couple of years of engaging. Course I could be wrong.

 

[Vinayaka]

I am responding to your negative disingenuous attitudes toward the Baha'i Faith, regardless of what you nor I believe or know. I apologize for the error in the reference to you as Buddhist.

Wow, I didn't see that coming, but thanks.

The 'negative', as you know, I just see as neutral. Often neutral is seen as negative so i'm not surprised. "If you're not with us, you're against us."

The one thing I really do admire about baha'i (JWs as well) is the commitment to ahimsa, non-violence. Too bad the entire planet didn't hold that as a core belief.

 

[Vinayaka]

Yes, people turn. I believe it is true.

So all Buddhist will soon become Baha'i? The 'entry by troops' is upon us!

 

[Vinayaka]

It seems common for religions to legitimise themselves by attaching themselves to future or past events such as Amitabha, Old Testament-New Testament and Islam, Second coming of Christ, Dasa Avatars, etc.

Seems a bit of a hassle, given you can legitimize yourself by good works.

 

[Shantanu]

Seems a bit of a hassle, given you can legitimize yourself by good works.

The Bahai faith is a pointless exercise as if God created such diverse faiths that are related to each other in a grand scheme of His as if He had nothing better to do with his time and energy having seen the universe through 14.5 billion years. The interrelationships do not make any coherent sense as another poster has alluded to so that the fundamental principles of these faiths must all be erroneous. The relationships being stressed appear to stem from knowing that it is all bull, and takes away individual responsibility for doing good works oneself here and now (as you say) by conducting oneself in dharmic ways that pays attention to karma yoga in ones life. I would further say that compassion and love does not fill the belly, and enlightenment and promoting universal order does not fill the individual belly, whereas karma in the struggle for existence meets both objectives.

 

[shunyadragon]

So all Buddhist will soon become Baha'i? The 'entry by troops' is upon us!

Probably not for a very long time.

 

[shunyadragon]

Seems a bit of a hassle, given you can legitimize yourself by good works.

The Baha'is do not legitimize themselves by good works.

 

[shunyadragon]

Nope, just observations for a couple of years of engaging. Course I could be wrong.

Observations are completely different from conclusions. Conclusions are self imposed.

 

[shunyadragon]

Baha'u' llah could not look after himself and created so many enemies so how can he preach anything that would look after all humanity: have you thought of that?

Actually no. That is a rather bizarro view and a leap in paradigms. Again, materiam and personal well being was not purpose of Jesus Christ, the Bab, nor Baha'u'llah. It was the Revelation and spiritual principles for the advancement of humanity.

 

[crossfire]

There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding exactly what a Bodhisattva is. Bodhisattvas are not awakened yet. Here is a story about a Bodhisattva that might help put things into perspective.

The Cucumber Sage

 

[osgart]

I gather that Ba'hai believes that all religions are fallible human attempts at understanding the divine, and that all religions are apart of a strictly human spiritual evolution.

The Messengers such as Jesus, and Mohammed revealed some aspects of divine will, but they were interpreted from a fallible human perspective in their Scriptures.

So a divine will is present at every stage of human development through the teachings of great Messengers, but much of that will is handed down to us from fallible sources.

 

[Vinayaka]

I gather that Ba'hai believes that all religions are fallible human attempts at understanding the divine, and that all religions are apart of a strictly human spiritual evolution.

The Messengers such as Jesus, and Mohammed revealed some aspects of divine will, but they were interpreted from a fallible human perspective in their Scriptures.

So a divine will is present at every stage of human development through the teachings of great Messengers, but much of that will is handed down to us from fallible sources.

All good except that the Baha'i guy is infallible, to them. Perhaps you knew that.

 

[osgart]

All good except that the Baha'i guy is infallible, to them. Perhaps you knew that.

Yeah that makes no sense to me. Nor do i see any possible way to amalgamate all religions. Its either one and the others are all wrong is my best perception of that.

 

[Twilight Hue]

......... and many Buddhists disagree, and of course Baha'is would too.

You would be hard-pressed to find any Buddhist agreeing with that.