Calming a tense nation

[PoetPhilosopher]

What's the best way of avoiding civil war in America while we have the tensions caused by a pandemic and the controversial deaths of George Floyd and others? And was America able to dodge a civil war by electing Biden?

My own opinion -

I really think Trump needed out of office. And I realize that this may be disrespectful and harsh to the people that supported him. But I wasn't sure how compromise can be reached. It's not like I can say "Republicans, I will vote with you in mutual agreement if we elect Romney". It'd just be a wasted vote. So I'm not sure how to answer to Republicans who believe Trump was on the right path mostly, at least compared to Biden... and how we can have a much better 4 years by getting Trump out, that it's a better gamble to have someone else try to handle this pandemic.

And that there was a lot of tension between Pelosi and Trump to the point we may have had to gone through a second impeachment trial.

 

[SomeRandom]

This I am interested to know. Because it’s all very well to be like “yay Biden” or whatever. But the aftermath is where things start to really heat up. Can a country so seemingly divided stand together as one?
You guys will figure it out, surely.

 

[Salty Booger]

In My Opinion, if the election was stolen, such theft should be exposed so it can never happen again. In My Opinion, the Democrats and Media have done everything they can to divide the Nation these past four years. I don't trust the Democrat Party, having been a member all my life until recently. I don't trust the Media, seeing that it is all politicized. I am hoping it doesn't go up in flames, but if that is required to realign the system back into balance, it might be necessary. Let us hope for the best.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

that it's a better gamble to have someone else try to handle this pandemic.

It's not much of gamble though because Biden was VP for Ebola and whatever the other one was. So he already some familiarity with the process and some past experience with it. He's clearly the better candidate for it because the P he served under had the book on the subject written. We may get locked down for a few weeks again, but at least we'll be able to emerge less sick and with restrictions that let us have some more normalcy like other countries who took this seriously.

 

[Lyndon]

I think the best thing Biden can do is include intelligent progressive Republicans in his cabinet and administration appointments, he claims to be a uniter not a divider and this would be a good place to start. My number one priority for America after we deal with Covid, is healthcare reform, Obamacare was poorly thought out and executed, it helped a lot of people but only when the government subsidized their healthcare, people that weren't eligible for that ended up paying more, its like it was designed by the insurance industry(and it was). Biden's idea of a public option to buy government healthcare; Medicare makes quite a bit of sense to me and is more likely to pass congress than a single payer system right now IMHO We really need to make affordable healthcare, not super expensive healthcare, available to everyone, that's my hope and prayer for America.

 

[Valjean]

Calming a tense nation?
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[Valjean]

In My Opinion, if the election was stolen, such theft should be exposed so it can never happen again. In My Opinion, the Democrats and Media have done everything they can to divide the Nation these past four years. I don't trust the Democrat Party, having been a member all my life until recently. I don't trust the Media, seeing that it is all politicized. I am hoping it doesn't go up in flames, but if that is required to realign the system back into balance, it might be necessary. Let us hope for the best.

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Your opinion is based on falsehood and propaganda, and it's the Republicans who've been the one's sowing fear, xenophobia, resentment and general discontent.

If you don't trust any media sources, what is this opinion based on?

 

[Brickjectivity]

What's the best way of avoiding civil war in America while we have the tensions caused by a pandemic and the controversial deaths of George Floyd and others? And was America able to dodge a civil war by electing Biden?

My own opinion -

I really think Trump needed out of office. And I realize that this may be disrespectful and harsh to the people that supported him. But I wasn't sure how compromise can be reached. It's not like I can say "Republicans, I will vote with you in mutual agreement if we elect Romney". It'd just be a wasted vote. So I'm not sure how to answer to Republicans who believe Trump was on the right path mostly, at least compared to Biden... and how we can have a much better 4 years by getting Trump out, that it's a better gamble to have someone else try to handle this pandemic.

And that there was a lot of tension between Pelosi and Trump to the point we may have had to gone through a second impeachment trial.

The lawsuits must play out for a time. The public believes there has been some unfairness possibly. Yes this is not just what Trump thinks. Therefore the lawsuits must go forward until they are given enough consideration that the public does not feel disrespected. Despite announcements by news and world leaders, the lawsuits still have a part to play.

As for the pandemic, its clear that ordering people about is not an effective solution here in the states. The proper course of action is to restore faith that has been destroyed. Restore the CDC. Restore the reputation of the WHO, etc. Toward this end news media can play a part (and can also help its own reputation) to provide a helping of short videos talking about the data and why the public should consider wearing masks and staying at a distance. If standard media won't help there are hundreds of youtube professionals willing and able. Authoritative claims are not working, and the WHO has been discredited. Fix it.

Acknowledge that the pandemic isn't everything. Talk about something else. Show some concern for the economy for goodness sakes.

Then....
Expose the problem at the southern border and why America ought to do something to change it, not through news media (which has lost the trust of the public) but with some other means. I don't know what can be done, but people no longer trust news networks about anything political. Brainstorming I have two ideas: Maybe get some famous right wing people to help, and it may help to have shows asking for citizens to sponsor individuals and families stuck at the border. Restore the ideals of immigration in America.

 

[Kenny]

What's the best way of avoiding civil war in America while we have the tensions caused by a pandemic and the controversial deaths of George Floyd and others? And was America able to dodge a civil war by electing Biden?

My own opinion -

I really think Trump needed out of office. And I realize that this may be disrespectful and harsh to the people that supported him. But I wasn't sure how compromise can be reached. It's not like I can say "Republicans, I will vote with you in mutual agreement if we elect Romney". It'd just be a wasted vote. So I'm not sure how to answer to Republicans who believe Trump was on the right path mostly, at least compared to Biden... and how we can have a much better 4 years by getting Trump out, that it's a better gamble to have someone else try to handle this pandemic.

And that there was a lot of tension between Pelosi and Trump to the point we may have had to gone through a second impeachment trial.

Appreciate your heart.

No, I don't think so. I think it needs to go through the legal system to route out illegal voting. I believe that laying dead is the worst thing we can do.

After 4 years of the lies of Russia Collusion et al, I think that playing dead would be the worst thing for the future of the United States. (no violence, no destruction of property no hatred... just let it go through the legal system)

 

[Quintessence]

A civil war was never (and still isn't) a real possibility. Step one to calming a tense nation - do what Biden suggests and knock off the demonization, including suggesting we were ever at any real risk of a civil war (no offense). I get that people are scared. The thing to do when you're scared is reach out and ask for a hug. just be sure to wear your mask.

 

[Tambourine]

In My Opinion, the Democrats and Media have done everything they can to divide the Nation these past four years.

The irony in this statement is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In My Opinion, the Democrats and Media have done everything they can to divide the Nation these past four years.

The Democrats aren't the ones who told some of the people I got to know in college they aren't allowed here.
The Democrats aren't the ones who discarded gains in rights for the trans community.
The Democrats aren't the ones meaning racist groups when they "good people."
The Democrats aren't the ones promoting the idea we should all risk our lives and health for the economy.
The Democrats aren't the ones spewing damaging and toxic lies about the election system based entirely and solely on "I lost."

 

[Twilight Hue]

In My Opinion, if the election was stolen, such theft should be exposed so it can never happen again. In My Opinion, the Democrats and Media have done everything they can to divide the Nation these past four years. I don't trust the Democrat Party, having been a member all my life until recently. I don't trust the Media, seeing that it is all politicized. I am hoping it doesn't go up in flames, but if that is required to realign the system back into balance, it might be necessary. Let us hope for the best.

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The beginning of Bidens speech lays out those "maricle numbers" Trump was referring to.

Namely Bidens amazing jump in voter count toward the end where he pulls ahead all of a sudden as if out of nowhere.

Its not proof of voter fraud, but it does look like something shady went on.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The beginning of Bidens speech lays out those "maricle numbers" Trump was referring to.

Namely Bidens amazing jump in voter count toward the end where he pulls ahead all of a sudden as if out of nowhere.

Its not proof of voter fraud, but it does look like something shady went on.

Not really. It just means Democrat voters, as usual, are more likely to mail in their vote, especially when the Republican president is telling people to not vote via mail but vote in person. So it's basically the result of that that we have seen with Biden's shifting numbers. It only seems shady if you forget Trump set himself up for it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

After 4 years of the lies of Russia Collusion et al

Go read Mueller's report since it seems you haven't.

 

[Valjean]

The beginning of Bidens speech lays out those "maricle numbers" Trump was referring to.

Namely Bidens amazing jump in voter count toward the end where he pulls ahead all of a sudden as if out of nowhere.

Its not proof of voter fraud, but it does look like something shady went on.

No, it looks like a blue shift.
'Blue shift': why votes counted after election day skew to the Democrats

 

[Kenny]

Go read Mueller's report since it seems you haven't.

Which we now know they were based on lies. And still no collusion.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In My Opinion, if the election was stolen, such theft should be exposed so it can never happen again. In My Opinion, the Democrats and Media have done everything they can to divide the Nation these past four years. I don't trust the Democrat Party, having been a member all my life until recently. I don't trust the Media, seeing that it is all politicized. I am hoping it doesn't go up in flames, but if that is required to realign the system back into balance, it might be necessary. Let us hope for the best.

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Well said. I could've written that.

 

[Kenny]

In My Opinion, if the election was stolen, such theft should be exposed so it can never happen again. In My Opinion, the Democrats and Media have done everything they can to divide the Nation these past four years. I don't trust the Democrat Party, having been a member all my life until recently. I don't trust the Media, seeing that it is all politicized. I am hoping it doesn't go up in flames, but if that is required to realign the system back into balance, it might be necessary. Let us hope for the best.

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It is numerically an impossibility IMO for the ballots that came AFTER a shutdown of counting just HAPPENED to be Biden votes and just enough to catch up Trump votes.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

It is numerically an impossibility IMO for the ballots that came AFTER a shutdown of counting just HAPPENED to be Biden votes and just enough to catch up Trump votes.

What do you mean by 'shutdown of counting'?