Gandhisdog
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Hi all, any clue?
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Can God create a God more powerful than itself?
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angellous_evangellous
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I would agree with Crowley. Sure, if God is Almighty, then he can do anything. He could turn the entire cosmos into jello and back into its normal state without anyone ever knowing anything...
Whatever
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angellous_evangellous
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True, but God would have to tell us if he wanted us to know that he created another, or wants to change the way that he relates to us or reveals himself.jewscout said:
Otherwise, we would never know.
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angellous_evangellous
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Yes, it would be heresy for both Jewscout and myself. Our documents force us to reject all other competing prophesies.pah said:
1) Judaism rejects the teachings of Jesus as aditional and competing to the Tanach
2) Christianity has closed its canon and will not accept any more competing or aditional revelation, although we confess that some have the gift of prophesy, they cannot add to our authoritative texts.
3) Therefore, for God to create a new God, it will be counted as heresy if a prophet were to tell either of our groups, unless there were some head-turning miracles - but even then it would be difficult
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angellous_evangellous
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OK, I agree here. We are assuming that God is also all-knowing. If there are limits to omnipotence, then he knows the limits. Therefore, God is not going to discover some new higher power, and bestow it upon another. We assume that God is all-powerful, so he has all the power that he knows, and he knows no power greater than himself because he knows everything. Therefore, he cannot create another power greater than himself because there is nothing greater than himself that he knows, unless of course he conceives of a possible higher power but there is no higher power to conceive that he is not.robtex said:
I will vote no. God can create a more powerful being, but he is always the more powerful being.
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angellous_evangellous
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Well put. That's what I meant above... God can do it hypothetically, but his character demands that he is always infinate in power.jewscout said:
Here's the paradox:
God is infinate in power, therefore he can create a more powerful god
A more powerful god would mean that God is no longer infinate in power
So, technically God can create a more powerful God, but knows of nothing greater than Himself because He already is the more powerful God, all in one being, infinately powerful.
Fat Old Sun
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I still want to know if he can make something so heavy that he cannot lift it.
I asked that in sunday school, was promptly asked to leave, and still have not found anyone willing to give me an answer.
I asked that in sunday school, was promptly asked to leave, and still have not found anyone willing to give me an answer.
Scott1
Well-Known Member
There is no answer.... it is an exercise for debate...Fat Old Sun said:I still want to know if he can make something so heavy that he cannot lift it.
I asked that in sunday school, was promptly asked to leave, and still have not found anyone willing to give me an answer.
Questions like this began in the Renaissance Era "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin" was a popular question... but no one really was asking questions like this to get a definitive answer.
Scott