Can God forgive?

[rational experiences]

If science causing healthy man life to be sacrificed in a God changed spirit gas heavens then a man defined it.

By being where he lived in evolution looking back to reactive human sacrificed life.

Reason. Reaction nuclear what his first scientific satanic thesis to consume Sion mass in a nuclear reaction.

Where he existed in evolution a long time after that reaction was researched.

Man changed highest one holy body mass O God or Allah. All spirits. Gases.

Product science taken from mass first. Not taken from spirit first.

The measure Phi was used to define multi functions is not one topic. It is multi theories combined.

Man Jesus life attacked was concluded by measure Phi to have been reasoned why.

Measure Phi was changed.

Measure is not a reaction.

Letter to numbered factor owning words summarised a thesis story that quotes Phi caused it.

As a title man Jesus summary. As his genetic cell healthy life changed. Another subject topic not science.

If the causes did not occur the Bible theist status says we would not have been saved. Does not support Jesus being sacrificed as a man is not Phi.

A man discussed Phi.

Therefore life sacrificed was not why we were saved it discussed why life was sacrificed but also saved.

Live a sacrifice yourself as a self and see if you think it holy.

 

[thomas t]

Interesting thoughts here.

Such as the idea that leaving the Earthly plane isn't "the end," and what comes after this was guaranteed to be "better" for Jesus (I would think heaven might leave its doors on auto-open for Jesus) - which devalues the sacrifice.

well, he came from heaven. Heaven was where he came from, he could have just stayed where he was, but he chose to come to us.
Suffering all the idiotic torture by the Romans is a sacrifice in itself, already. Suffering a physical death when you could have stayed in heaven, is too, I think.

Devaluing it even further is the idea that Jesus somehow is God (trinity) - which makes it such that NOTHING was actually sacrificed - God could easily just re-establish Himself on Earth as Jesus: Part 2, or something.

that doesn't render all the suffering on the cross undone.

And, as relayed in the OP, He could have literally chosen anything to represent the forgiveness - He supposedly has the power, so even "just forgiving" was an option, which, from God's perspective, I would think makes the whole crucifixion ordeal incredibly pointless.

however, God wants a price.
Look, when I break your window and tell you "hey, but you could just forgive, can't you?", you could still ask for a compensation.
This would be totally fine, I think. This is how it works. When people break something they should be asked to restore.
Why should this principle be so much different with God?

However, when humans break something in His creation... we can't pay as humans.
And that's why Jesus came to earth to serve.

I see it this way: he received a pay for his services from God. And this is what he didn't keep for himself but offered to everyone who believes.
He offers anyone who believes in him his money he got from God.
And God accepts.

So, God didn't receive the money from the sinners but from Jesus instead. So Bible announced that Jesus gave this money for everyone who confessed and believs in him.

EDITED for clarification

 

[rational experiences]

Science described by thesis stories.

Earth O God philosophy of stone.

Humans present living are the storytellers.

The claim when nothing existed the topics bodies I know already present in presence I claim were created.

How were they named or known before they existed?

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Look, when I break your window and tell you "hey, but you could just forgive, can't you?", you could still ask for a compensation.
This would be totally fine, I think. This is how it works. When people break something they should be asked to restore.
Why should this principle be so much different with God?

But what if I could literally snap my fingers (or less) and have the window magically repair itself? What if that were the situation? That no matter how many times you tried breaking the window, I could have it repaired - good as new - in moments, without even breaking a sweat?

 

[thomas t]

But what if I could literally snap my fingers (or less) and have the window magically repair itself? What if that were the situation? That no matter how many times you tried breaking the window, I could have it repaired - good as new - in moments, without even breaking a sweat?

@TagliatelliMonster is that your brother?

Actually, this might be a theoretical option.
However, Bible teaches that the Lord does actually work.
Six entire days of work it took him to design the universe, according to the Bible.

 

[Thief]

Is God so weak that he cannot just forgive?

flip the coin

Is God so firm in what is required?
that He would kill you..... rather than retrain you

 

[firedragon]

flip the coin

Is God so firm in what is required?
that He would kill you..... rather than retrain you

Could you please explain how that is relevant to the OP? Maybe I do not understand your post.

 

[Thief]

Could you please explain how that is relevant to the OP? Maybe I do not understand your post.

forgiven....by God and heaven
I would be allowed to follow

to live and perform as They do

that would include forgiveness
that heaven would not look upon my life in this world
the faults and fails of my deeds

I suspect forgiveness is dealt in what heaven sees as ....your potential

why give the bread of the children unto dogs?

 

[firedragon]

forgiven....by God and heaven
I would be allowed to follow

to live and perform as They do

that would include forgiveness
that heaven would not look upon my life in this world
the faults and fails of my deeds

I suspect forgiveness is dealt in what heaven sees as ....your potential

why give the bread of the children unto dogs?

How is that relevant to the OP?

 

[Thief]

Is God so weak that he cannot just forgive?

and God is weak?.....that He does not forgive?

more like God has strength
and can live without you

 

[firedragon]

and God is weak?.....that He does not forgive?

more like God has strength
and can live without you

So how does that answer the OP?

 

[Thief]

So how does that answer the OP?

are you insisting that God is weak?

 

[firedragon]

are you insisting that God is weak?

Nope.

 

[Thief]

Nope.

then you have your answer
God is not weak
and forgiveness is not a sign of weakness

should He decide to NOT forgive.....is also a sign of strength
a line drawn and held

 

[firedragon]

then you have your answer
God is not weak
and forgiveness is not a sign of weakness

should He decide to NOT forgive.....is also a sign of strength
a line drawn and held

Very good.

But how does that address the OP?

 

[Thief]

Is God so weak that he cannot just forgive?

this question?​

 

[firedragon]

this question?​

Well. In that case Thief, I agree with you. God is not weak.

The Christian theology that I address in the OP makes him a weak God. Thats the whole point. Maybe it was not so clear but abrupt in the OP.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

@TagliatelliMonster is that your brother?

Actually, this might be a theoretical option.
However, Bible teaches that the Lord does actually work.
Six entire days of work it took him to design the universe, according to the Bible.

"The universe" is a far cry from a window... or even a singular, broken human being, I would think. But then again, perhaps He is not as powerful as some might like to imagine. Who knows?

 

[rational experiences]

Science thesis of creation as said by living human.

Quotes God told me.

Anyone would claim a speaking voice.

Science however says speaking hearing voices is a chemical brain status human voice recorded of self. The scientist theist who told stories

Variations to brain chemistry determines hearing voice.

Science says God in the universe and wants that thesis then asks can God forgive.

Are you for real?

A reality human.......i live inside natural mass in space. Heavens.

I do not live inside energy first form O God mass a planet

The heavens mass created by its planet entity a science status. Science god...gods are planets historic story is a creator. Created its heavens

We live inside mass heavens

Science thesis for small God version o...machine energy gain from God mass.

Says it's science

Does that situation forgive and save you?

Mass knowingly can have small bodied masses removed and you survive. The theist human said so.

Time and again ooooooooremoved changes pressure

We live in a mass we said oh the atmosphere heavenly spirit saved me.

Conditions taught seeing you have to tell stories back to a scientist. After we get attacked. Thesis science reactive history before everything....reality.

The ice melted...the water oxygen you evaporated that left me as a healthy man was put back.

Science says science is the most intelligent self. Look at all those weird humans and what they say in your response....to heavenly phenomena as it is not natural.

When you irradiated us.

Now imbalanced brains by nearly every human inheritance a jewel nuclear removal to a Jew as El God ooooooo bodies gone you start asking illogical questions for science.

The Jewish humanity then claim told you so you will all become a Jew.

How it was taught logically.