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Can God rescue a soul from hell?
- Thread starter Spiderman
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There is no hell.
If God has judged you and your soul still exist. You are now in Heaven. Congrats
The other option is nothingness. If a soul is burdened with too much sin it will incinerate in the Lord's presence. This is what being judged is.
Hebrews 12:29
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Once that judgment has been dealt, it is final. "Hell" is the death of the soul.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I don't think you will go to hell for what you don't know
Altfish
Veteran Member
There is no ignorance there, thought about them and dismissed them all as man's creation.
My understanding of the "divisions" of the being are something like this:
Material Body-Soul-(Spirit-Source) (what other people call God, I guess... though not anthropomorphic, the parentheses are basically to show that spirit/source exist together.)
The problem with such arrangement is obviously the "body" and the "soul" are like bicycles... They get ridden until they die, and then you go back to the eternal spirit/source combo. The bicycles are not important, but if you believe they are maybe you make bad decisions in life based on that information.
In essence, there can be no hell because you are literally of God and everything you've ever done is simply something it (saying he is pretty ridiculous) and you already agreed to. Yes, that means sin is technically impossible, etc... You can't offend the creator when your spirit and him (conveniently) agreed to do whatever it is you are doing, so you can share the experiences with him.Any dogma that is applied your soul is a trap, basically. They simply deny you your essence by tricking you into believing that it is the most important thing. Thinking it is really that important has drastic implications on your post-death actions, as there are many things that profit by "trapping" these souls and diverting them with modification to feed off of them. They sort of exist as a "permanent spirit" or "inter-dimensional being", who like to drink off your negative waves so they reprogram your soul to be troubled for exactly that purpose and divert you away from source and force reincarnation. Short of it is, you ever see that "light tunnel" with some blue guy spirit calling to you... don't go in!
Every single mainstream religion is actually a soul farm for these parasites, so just take it all with a grain of salt. Of course, you will come back in this modded form with an even worse life than now - they are there to take all of the energy until it's gone. So, either you learn to break free or you keep repeating this cycle of dogma, soul manipulation, reincarnation, and draining until you are nothing.Of course, you are free to believe anything you want on the subject but just sort of sharing my experiences/knowledge here for whatever it is worth.
dfnj
Well-Known Member
I believe God uses his omnipotent powers of love and forgiveness to rehabilitate everyone going to Hell so they can be saved back into Heaven. The way God does this is when a person turns away from God then God gives the person omnipotent powers. An omnipotent God would not truly be omnipotent if He were not able to give out omnipotent powers to other people. So why would God give a person omnipotent powers to rehabilitate themselves? With omnipotent powers a person can spontaneously create reality as it is imagined. There is probably no better way for God to win the hearts of people who turn away from Him than by giving them everything their heart desires. Omnipotent powers may sound like a great deal but it would get boring in a seemingly short time. After having sex with two chicks over 10,000 times it all gets a little old. Staring into the face of God experiencing God's infinite beauty is our greatest possible experience. No one would choose not to experience eternal heavenly bliss at some point. And so everyone is rehabilitated. Everyone is saved in the end. God get's to keep all His precious creations in Heaven as God intended in the first place.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Exodus 32:14 ►
King James Version
And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Does that describe an unchanging, all-knowing God?
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I'm not sure God is unchanging...he may learn new things or have change of heart
Isn't this the exact kind of question that is supposed to be answered along the lines of "no, because he respects people's free will"?
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Good answer, but that would also mean that the doors of hell are locked from the inside and that people want to be there. However, after a thousand years of Hell, a person could change their mind, and God could rescue them... Assuming there is a God and that he is omnipotent
I am not a good choice to comment on Christian Theology.
But you made me wonder: how, if at all, are people supposed to escape hell?
Some people seem to believe that many people are supposed never to leave it, IIRC.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
That could very well be....or perhaps God waits till they repent, then eases their misery....hell is probably like a prison.... people serve their time and get out
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
Yes, He can, and does.
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
God's imagination is our reality and our soul is God's memory of us.
All these answers make much better sense than Traditional Christianity offers.
Perhaps a traditional Christian has a response?
These answers generally mesh with the Universalist view, that Almighty God wants all of His children to be Saved. And Almighty God always gets what Almighty God wants. That makes somewhat more sense to me than the traditional Christian teachings on this subject.
Tom