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Can science create a word or an atom of the Universe/s from annihilation?

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Can science create a word* or an atom of the Universe/s from annihilation**?
Please

Regards
__________
* + of a language
** +and not using anything in the Universe/s

One may like to read post #45 in another sub-forum.
and _______________do______#5_______ in this thread.

Human beings create words all of the time. Esperanto is an entire language created by a Polish physician in 1887.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
People can create any words they wish as words are part of language not something contained and developed only within science. Slang is an example of normal people creating words which have meaning. Scientists do make up words all the time for terminology.
The scientists make terminologies as science has no language of its own, as it is helpless, they don't make words strictly speaking. Please
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
You said that God claims something, not that you are claiming something.
A quote from the Quran only shows that a book of fiction can have false claims. Nothing new there.
Sorry.
Book of fictions don't provide rational reasoning, while Quran provide them. So Quran is not a book of fiction. Please
Regards
 

sayak83

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Staff member
Premium Member
Sorry.
Book of fictions don't provide rational reasoning, while Quran provide them. So Quran is not a book of fiction. Please
Regards
Sorry, books of fiction provide lots of rational reasoning. Like War and Peace.
Please prove War and Peace to be less rational than Quran.
Thank you.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Again, what does that even mean? The question makes no sense. We create words all the time. I'm not sure what you mean when you ask to 'create an atom of the Universe from annihilation'. Do you mean to ask if we can create an atom from nothing?

No, we cannot do that. So what? You make a claim that some deity can. Prove it. Not by quoting a book of myths. Prove it by showing how it is done.
A myth is out and out irrational, Quran provides rational reasoning. So Quran is not a book of myths. Please
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Sorry, books of fiction provide lots of rational reasoning. Like War and Peace.
Please prove War and Peace to be less rational than Quran.
Thank you.
Please provide a quote from the book "War and Peace" which is most rational with consensus.
Regards.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Sorry.
Book of fictions don't provide rational reasoning, while Quran provide them. So Quran is not a book of fiction. Please
Regards

The book 1984 provides a very rational and reasoned argument against the concept of communism, yet it is a book of fiction. Thus the Quran, even if it might provide rational reasoning, can just as easily be a book of fiction. Please try again.
 

sayak83

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Please provide a quote from the book "War and Peace" which is most rational with consensus.
Regards.
Umm everything in war and peace is rational. Ordinary but riveting and rational account of the lives of certain fictional families in the Russia during the Napoleonic wars.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Umm everything in war and peace is rational. Ordinary but riveting and rational account of the lives of certain fictional families in the Russia during the Napoleonic wars.
Yet one could not quote a passage from the book "War and Peace" that is rational with good reasoning when to make peace and when to make war. Please focus on this.
Regards
 

von bek

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I never said that fiction has not utility. Please
Regards

Fair enough. There are people who find fiction to be frivolous and of no real value to learning. I feel such views are a source of opposition to the arts, and as such pose a threat to my values. So, you do feel we can learn lessons from stories that never occurred in a historical sense, correct?
 

sayak83

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Staff member
Premium Member
Yet one could not quote a passage from the book "War and Peace" that is rational with good reasoning when to make peace and when to make war. Please focus on this.
Regards
Its not a book about that at all. Seriously, you have never heard of War and Peace? It about the experiences of people as they live through war and peace.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Fair enough. There are people who find fiction to be frivolous and of no real value to learning. I feel such views are a source of opposition to the arts, and as such pose a threat to my values. So, you do feel we can learn lessons from stories that never occurred in a historical sense, correct?
My comments were for calling Quran by a poster as a book of fiction. Quran is the Revelation/Recitation for guidance of the humanity in ethical, moral and spiritual realms and it does that in a wonderful way. A book of fiction cannot do all these things. Please
Regards
 

von bek

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My comments were for calling Quran by a poster as a book of fiction. Quran is the Revelation/Recitation for guidance of the humanity in ethical, moral and spiritual realms and it does that in a wonderful way. A book of fiction cannot do all these things. Please
Regards

While I believe a work of fiction CAN do all those things, I have no wish to seem like I am disrespecting your holy book so I will leave it at us disagreeing about the power of a good story.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
My comments were for calling Quran by a poster as a book of fiction. Quran is the Revelation/Recitation for guidance of the humanity in ethical, moral and spiritual realms and it does that in a wonderful way. A book of fiction cannot do all these things. Please
Regards
This is true I think. But do you think it proves Quran is the Word of God?
Those who do not believe in Quran would say, a human being could have written Quran. So, in your view, what evidence or proof are there, that Quran is the Word of God?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The scientists make terminologies as science has no language of its own, as it is helpless, they don't make words strictly speaking.

So what? No one claimed science produced it's own unique and complete language. Science is a tool not a thing.
 
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