Can someone explain the Trinity please...

[Nada]

What is so unscriptural about what the billions believe?

Let me help you. And it's no where near the unscriptural things you do, such as denying the all of the congregation the 'emblems.' Jesus didn't pass anyone by at the Last Supper.

Jews/Jesus=be presented as a member of the community. The billions=be baptized into the body of Christ.

Jews/Jesus=go to synagogue once a week and hear the word of God read and commented on. The billions=go to church once a week and hear the word of God read and commented on.

Jews/Jesus=Day of Atonement once a year. The billions=go to confession once a year.

Jews/Jesus=eat the Passover lamb once a year. The billions=go to communion once a year.

There you have it. Simple, huh?

Just because billions believe in the same thing does not make it right brother.
1.3 billion muslims believe in certain things that true christians do not agree with.So by your logic, just because billions believe, this makes it correct?

You are correct.Jesus did not pass anyone by.The disciples were of the anointed class.They were chosen by God to be disciples of Jesus.Jesus established a covenant with his disciples.

Nowhere in the holy scriptures does it say to go to church once a week.The holy scriptures says all days are important and we must worship God daily.When you wake up,when you eat,when you sleep,when you want help etc..

No man can forgive sins but God.Confession boxes are useless.

If you do not belong to the anointed class of those who will serve along side Jesus Christ in heaven then you have no business eating or drinking of the emblems.

 

[Nada]

I'm here to present the truth. You're here 'chest banging' how scriptural your future organization is and I've posted info that it's not scriptural. I'm sorry that you don't like the truth but I can't help that.

Why don't you tell us why you are not baptized into the body of Christ but into an organization?

All I am doing is backing up what God says in the holy scriptures.There are not many interpretations,there is only one.God tells us in the holy scriptures.Those who earnestly seek knowledge and ask this of God are answered.Those who want to know God will be answered.He helps by way of the holy spirit.No one can understand the holy scriptures unless He lets you understand it.

I am not baptized period.Not into anything.I am not a JW.I am studying.

Those who truly seek God will know truth when they hear and see it.Those who are blinded by the god of this world remain in the dark.That is why in that song amazing grace it says, "I once was lost but now I'm found." It's talking about seeing the light.Many will never have that privilege.It is a gift the holy scriptures says.It has to be given to us by God.

 

[Wharton]

There are no test scores.Just yes or no verbally when asked if you understand what it is you are doing.If I were to ask you if you know God's name and you say no,do you think you are ready to be baptized to serve Him? That is exactly what these type of questions are.If you do not know truth, then it must be taught to you in order for you to serve the Most High.Once you have come to understand the message in the holy scriptures, and who God is,then you are ready to dedicate your life to Him.

Still tap dancing.

How about this? Can you fail this unscriptural baptism test?

 

[Wharton]

Being presented for circumcision and the purification requirements of the law is not baptism. Baptism is was a event in a disciple's life. An infant can not be a disciple yet. They can not even speak, let alone know enough to be a 'taught one.' Some felt that they needed to be baptized to keep the babies that died young out of some sort of incomplete afterlife. 1) there is no afterlife w/o a resurrection first. 2) the children are deemed righteous if they have one righteous parent till they can be held accountable for their own actions. (1 Cor 7:14)

Where does it state that infants can't be baptized?

 

[Wharton]

I am not baptized period.Not into anything.I am not a JW.I am studying.

Studying to be what?

 

[Nada]

Still tap dancing.

How about this? Can you fail this unscriptural baptism test?

It seems to be difficult for you to understand brother.I explained it as simple as possible already.Here it goes again but easier.If you do not know who you are serving, then you must be taught first.Easy as that.

 

[Wharton]

Just because billions believe in the same thing does not make it right brother.
1.3 billion muslims believe in certain things that true christians do not agree with.So by your logic, just because billions believe, this makes it correct?

Correct. You're closer to Muslim theology than Christian. That's a fact.

 

[Wharton]

You are correct.Jesus did not pass anyone by.The disciples were of the anointed class.They were chosen by God to be disciples of Jesus.Jesus established a covenant with his disciples.

Who said they were anointed? Where is that in scripture?

 

[Nada]

Studying to be what?

A witness of Jehovah just like the 1st century christians were.One who practices and preaches the true Word of God, in the holy scriptures, as was preached by Jesus Christ in the 1st century.Going door to door and house to house just like the 1st century christians did.

 

[Nada]

Correct. You're closer to Muslim theology than Christian. That's a fact.

No.It is your opinion.You see.. what you think is not fact.It is an opinion because you can not prove this to be true.It is merely a thought you have about something or someone.The sun is hot is a fact.

 

[Wharton]

Nowhere in the holy scriptures does it say to go to church once a week.The holy scriptures says all days are important and we must worship God daily.When you wake up,when you eat,when you sleep,when you want help etc..

The billions in the Catholic Church can go every day to mass to worship as well as pray daily

If you do not belong to the anointed class of those who will serve along side Jesus Christ in heaven then you have no business eating or drinking of the emblems.

That's a discriminatory God you have there. Are not all of his children equal in his eyes. Emblems are not sacred. They're not the real thing.

 

[Nada]

Who said they were anointed? Where is that in scripture?

First do you know what anointed means? It means to be chosen by God to carry out a task.Many were anointed by God.Even those who were not fully servants of God.Like Cyrus.This King was a military genius and was also a pagan.God used him to carry out His will.
Anyway,anointed means chosen.

Acts10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

Do not get this confused with anointing with oil.
Mark 6:13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them.

The disciples of Jesus who lived in the 1st century were of the anointed class.They received it at the Pentecost of 33C.E.

Acts1:4,5.4Gathering them together, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, "Which," He said, "you heard of from Me; 5for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now."

This occurred 50 days after Jesus was put to death.Pentecost means 50.It is 7 weeks total.
7 is God's number for completion.

When they all became baptized with the holy spirit they became property of God and will serve along side with Jesus in heaven.That is why Paul mentions that they will even judge angels.

1 Corinthians 6:2,3…2Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?

Here Paul is stating that they(the anointed disciples) will reside in heaven when the world is judged.

Not all will reside in heaven.Only those who are anointed to serve with Jesus Christ.The holy scriptures mentions 144,000 of them total.The rest of God's people will reside on earth forever in a paradise.

Isaiah 45:18 For this is what the LORD says-- he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited-- he says: "I am the LORD, and there is no other.

God says He did not make the earth to be empty.It is for man to live on forever as was the case with our first parents Adam and Eve.

Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

 

[Nada]

The billions in the Catholic Church can go every day to mass to worship as well as pray daily

That's a discriminatory God you have there. Are not all of his children equal in his eyes. Emblems are not sacred. They're not the real thing.

You said once a week.

You can tell what you think of God to Him.

 

[Kolibri]

Where does it state that infants can't be baptized?

Mt 28:19.20

Who were to be baptized? Was it not to be disciples? What is a disciple? Is it not taught ones? Would not baptizing people who are not 'taught ones' go beyond what is written?

 

[Bas Monahan]

I love it when people eisegete single phrases and verses to the contrary of two thousand years of tradition and other, more contextual references (Biblical and extra-Biblical) to pedobaptism.

 

[Kolibri]

I love it when people eisegete single phrases and verses to the contrary of two thousand years of tradition and other, more contextual references (Biblical and extra-Biblical) to pedobaptism.

that is what happens when tradition outweighs scripture. It is nothing new. Jewish religious leaders did the same in Jesus day. (Mr 7:3,4,7,8) There is nothing wrong with tradition. (2 Thess 2:15) Where there is an issue is when the tradition violates scripture. (2 Timothy 3:16,17)

 

[Bas Monahan]

"Where there is an issue is when the tradition violates scripture. (2 Timothy 3:16,17)"
There's no issue for the Orthodox (and Catholics) who participated in the tradition that selected the scripture you're selecting. Even more, those verses don't negate the claim that scripture is part of tradition (Orthodox view). Only Protestants have made the interaction between Scripture and Tradition contentious.

 

[Wharton]

No.It is your opinion.You see.. what you think is not fact.It is an opinion because you can not prove this to be true.It is merely a thought you have about something or someone.The sun is hot is a fact.

Let me help you in your studies. The two most basic articles of orthodox Christian faith are: Jesus is God and is part of the Trinity.

Muslims believe Jesus was a perfect sinless man and was not God.

Muslims do not believe in the Trinity.

You hold the same beliefs.

I've just proved you are more like a Muslim than a Christian.

 

[Wharton]

You said once a week.

You can tell what you think of God to Him.

Once a week is the MINIMUM requirement. Mass is offered twice a day, just like the two daily sacrifices in the temple.

 

[Kolibri]

There's no issue for the Orthodox (and Catholics) who participated in the tradition that selected the scripture you're selecting.

If tradition selected the scriptures then we are all lost. No, the infancy of the christian congregation was full of special gifts of the spirit. One of these was 'discernment of inspired expressions.' (1 Cor 12:10).

It was the holy spirit by means of this gift given to early christians that selected what was canon - not human tradition.

Why would God leave something so important to human error?