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Can visions show the real future?

Ori

Angel slayer
As in Nostrodamus and his supposed visions, can people really see into the future and if so how does this impact on free will?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
The same thought applies to the fact that God knows our Future.
In Gods case he is not limited by time, but is in every time all the time. whilst we travel through time. e.g. He sees our Death at the time we are Borne.To us those events are separated by our whole lives. This does not impact on free will any more than if an observer went into hibernation for the same period.

But can people see the future? Only if it is shown to them by God.
Terry
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Blessed are the merciful, mercy shall be shown unto them.
 

Unedited

Active Member
I think the extent of seeing the future is like looking ahead in a game of chess. You can only really know what's most logically going to happen. The more knowledgeable someone is about chess, the more likely they will guess accurately. In the same way, the more connect one is to their higher self, the more accurate any of their predictions would be.
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
Visions can only ever show one possible future (if i've learnt anything from sci-fi), in fact the act of having the vision is often enough to change the future away from what was seen - its like going back in time a squishing a bug.
 

njcl

Active Member
the future can be revealed by many things,obviously god but also practises that are forbiden in the bible which are unfortunatly popular today,ie tarot cards,palm reading,crystal ball so forth so forth
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
njcl said:
the future can be revealed by many things,obviously god but also practises that are forbiden in the bible which are unfortunatly popular today,ie tarot cards,palm reading,crystal ball so forth so forth
I must admit that I read palms - but not by an intuitive method (ie in no way connected with anything other than sheer science); I use the Tarot, but only ever to meditate.

It is strange, because I have always felt 'uncomfortable' with the idea of trying to foretell the future - even before I knew that it was forbidden in the Bible.:)
 

Ormiston

Well-Known Member
I'm not religious and maybe just a little superstitious, but I had a vision (in a dream) come true less than an hour after I woke from the dream. Fluffy's mugging reminded me of this story. I had a dream that I was going to get mugged and it happened. I worked in the worst part of the city though and I think the anxiety caused the dream. The rest is just coincidence (or at least that's what I tell myself).
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
This is tricky, and there is a reason for not dabbling with it. By knowing the future, you will try to change it, or inadvertantly change it.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
EnhancedSpirit said:
This is tricky, and there is a reason for not dabbling with it. By knowing the future, you will try to change it, or inadvertantly change it.
Ah, not quite so - well, for me that is.

When I read palms, the reading is one centered on an empirical methodology (ie there is nothing 'supernatural' abut the reading, it is purely deductive). Depending on your preference re hands (ie right or left handed), one hand gives an 'image' of your past character traits.
The other hand gives an indication of the present character traits : therefore, any prediction of the future is not one 'set in stone'. If, as a result of what someone has been told, they change the way they view things, the future becomes totally different.

An example - Mum used to palmistry (not seriously, never for money etc) - she had a friend about the same age as she (They were in their early twenties). Aparently, this girl asked Mum to give her a reading, which my mother did.

What she saw was troubling; she noticed a 'new trend of thought in career' in her friend's hand (ie the past hand showed stability, whilst the 'current thought hand' showed a new 'inclination), which, unfortunately showed an implication of disaster (possibly death).

Of course Mum didn't tell the girl what she had seen, in it's entirity, but she told her friend that she could tell that she was thinking of changing career, which was not a 'wise' change.

Some six months later, Mum heard from the friend again who told her that she had been considering becoming an air-hostess, and had applied to an airline for the job; for some reason, she changed her mind, and stuck with what she was doing. But she had just heard on the news that a plane from the airline for which she would have been working had suffered a bad plane crash in which various passengers and crew had unfortunately been killed. Of course, the girl remembered what mum had told her, and wanted mum to know what had transpired....

Coincidence ? sheer happenstance ? - well, everyone can have their opinion, but I know what mine is.

Coincidentally - I had never 'though this out ' before, but mum read palms, my grandfather on Dad's side was a metaphysician (and for which he taught at Bruxelles University just before WWII), he used a divining pendulum to diagnose ailments ( for which he used to give his 'patients' homeopathic remedies ), so I guess, I must have some genetic 'trend' towards being interested in such subjects!:)
 
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