Heyo
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1776-03-09 An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations was published.
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Capitalists may have the same mentality as Nazis: that people must be enslaved
- Thread starter Estro Felino
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I could'a sworn that people raised capital,
hired workers, & ran businesses for profit
before then.
clara17
Memorable member
Your political compass?
It sure is that of many US Americans.
the lower half exists and its probably 25% of the country they just have no representation
Heyo
Veteran Member
Yes, but they didn't have the philosophical background to know that it was capitalism.
clara17
Memorable member
ok, A book was published. Did a law pass? What changed? If we want to eradicate capitalism, what law would we pass?
Heyo
Veteran Member
Not all rich people dump toxins, but all rich people got their wealth through exploitation. Maybe they didn't do the exploitation themselves, but it is impossible to get rich by hard work - except the hard work of others.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
This is precisely the problem with how most Americans view politics.Your political compass?
It sure is that of many US Americans.
Elon Musk is known to work 85-100 hrs per week. many of the worlds richest are well past the age of retirement and are still working.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Yes, greed can ruin a person more than cocaine or heroin - and is more addictive.
PureX
Veteran Member
The rich:
Those who have far more than they need to survive and thrive, but still will not share with those who don’t.
See, that wasn’t hard to define at all.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Rumor has it Musk has a ketamine problem.
To do a thing without applying the modern English
term for it doesn't mean that they didn't do the thing.
Did hunter gatherers not hunt & gather simply
because they said neither "hunt" nor "gather"?
Does the lack of an expressed hunter gather
philosophy negate what they did?
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Well, to answer your last point, I'm not entirely convinced that Europeans have never tried to interfere in America's affairs. And America largely stayed out of European affairs up until the time of the World Wars.
Most Americans I've talked to about this tend to believe that "we had no other choice," which may be true to a large extent. I don't think the world situation as it developed and evolved from 1914 to 2024 was strictly America's doing. America's foreign policy has largely stuck to maintaining the global status quo and dealing with fires as they come up.
I sometimes wish that they really did have some kind of conspiracy or "plan" behind it, if only just to believe that there may be some method to their madness. As you say, the world has changed, but can America keep up with and adapt to these changes? Sometimes I wonder. In many ways, our policymakers still seem to be stuck in the Cold War.
I see elements of nationalism in both Ukraine and Russia, and it would appear that both are fighting for nationalistic reasons. It's the same ideology, but just different nations. On the other hand, Russia's nationalism might be seen as malignant and aggressive, while Ukraine's nationalism might be perceived as more defensive and more of a liberationist variety.
One of the consequences of the World Wars was that that socialist left, by and large, became decidedly anti-nationalist and more internationalist in their worldview.
That's because people could clearly see that proletarian working class people from multiple countries were being manipulated, goaded, and/or coerced into fighting and slaughtering each other on behalf of nationalistic, imperialistic, aristocratic meatheads who think of the common people as cattle. That's their ideology.
Ideally, I believe that it would be better for humanity if the world were unified under a single government. I know a lot of people don't like that idea, and even those who do like it can't really come up with any feasible plan for how it would actually work.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What profit is it to a man if he should gain the world but lose his very soul?
Even back then and even much further into ancient times, the pursuit of gold has always been a thing (although silver and other metals were used). Gold was needed to buy land, slaves, hire workers, equip an army to go out and steal more gold. "Gold, Glory, and God."
The real game-changer might have been industrialism combined with feudalism, which would become the modernized version of "capitalism" we all know and love. Back when feudal lords were nothing but glorified farmers, that was one thing, but when they started running factories that way, in crowded urban conditions, it became yet another thing.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Good thing Europe as a whole doesn't see that one happening. Lots and lots of Europeans love freedom and liberty, things that do mot exist in Russia.
That is definitely false.
Italy
Yes. The Italian State will expropriate the property from me. And compensate me of course, with the price of the land.
Totally fair to me.
We have a socialist Constitution...light years away from toxic neo-liberism.
GoodAttention
Well-Known Member
Considering that Kissinger murdered Moro...through proxies...
There has always been some elitist gang overseas imposing the destruction of socialism on us.
And btw...Christian Democracy is another name for "Catholic Socialism".
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