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Captain America: Civil War. Pick your side!

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Team Cap.

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von bek

Well-Known Member
At this point, I'm team Iron Man. I am actually sympathetic to Stark in the comic version of Civil War, too. Now, from what I have seen, the plot in the movie will be different from the books. My guess is that Baron Zemo will carry out terrorist attacks that will be blamed on Bucky. At the end, everyone will figure out they are being played and take the fight to Hydra.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Heresy! As a libertarian you should be on Cap's side, fighting against superhero regulation! It's our second amendment right to wield super-powers, we don't need no government gettin' involved.

Team Cap all the way.
I don't know what they're fighting over.
Iron Man rules because he's smarter, has a better sense of humor, and he has the best toys!
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Nobody. :(

The Hulk will not be appearing in the movie. Don't know how they will explain his absence. In the comic version, Tony Stark launches Banner into outer space before everything really goes down.
Didn't he go in to hiding again at the end of Avengers 2?
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I don't know what they're fighting over.

Basically following the events of Age of Ultron, the world wants to put restraints on the Avengers' activities - both individually and as a group. Stark is in favour of this for reasons explained in Age of Ultron, and Cap is against this for reasons explained in the first two Captain America films.

Basically in the first two Cap films, Rogers is sent to kill Hitler but finds out that the Reich has been infiltrated by an almost-identical but far more technologically advanced clandestine society known as Hydra. They have more or less the same goals as the Nazis but on a global scale, and they have access to the Tesseract - the infinity stone for 'space' at their disposal. Rogers goes rogue to stop Hydra and kill their de facto leader Johann Shmidt (Red Skull, played by Hugo Weaving). Cap kills Red Skull and stops Hydras plans against the Allied & Axis powers but isn't able to wipe out the organisation. He also loses his childhood friend 'Bucky' who falls to his death down a ravine during the mission. He crashes Red Skull's plane developed by Hydra (the blueprint for American Cold War-era stealth aircraft) into the Arctic Ocean and because of his enhanced physiology he enters a crude sort of cryo-sleep..

Fast forward to the second film where Captain America has been revived and works for Shield; a secret organisation founded by his former lover shortly after he disappeared to carry on his work to defeat Hydra once and for all. Unfortunately Hydra have infiltrated Shield and plan to use the newest technology to enslave the world. Cap goes rogue (again) to bring Hydra down. In doing so he basically turns Shield loyalists against the Hydra infiltrators in their midst. He ends up having to fight an expert assassin known only as The Winter Soldier. As it turns out, it's his friend Bucky who not only didn't die, he was revived by Hydra, brainwashed and given cybernetic enhancements to serve as their puppet. Cap tries and fails to help Bucky break through the brainwashing but fails. The Winter Soldier escapes and at the end, Captain America, together with his new colleague and friend Falcon, serve try to look for him in between leading the Avengers into battle against the remaining Hydra cells still active on Earth (Age of Ultron).


Iron Man rules because he's smarter, has a better sense of humor, and he has the best toys!

I like Stark as a character - he gets the most laughs out of me. But I'm repping Team Cap because I disagree with the position Iron Man is taking on a philosophical basis.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Basically following the events of Age of Ultron, the world wants to put restraints on the Avengers' activities - both individually and as a group. Stark is in favour of this for reasons explained in Age of Ultron, and Cap is against this for reasons explained in the first two Captain America films.

Basically in the first two Cap films, Rogers is sent to kill Hitler but finds out that the Reich has been infiltrated by an almost-identical but far more technologically advanced clandestine society known as Hydra. They have more or less the same goals as the Nazis but on a global scale, and they have access to the Tesseract - the infinity stone for 'space' at their disposal. Rogers goes rogue to stop Hydra and kill their de facto leader Johann Shmidt (Red Skull, played by Hugo Weaving). Cap kills Red Skull and stops Hydras plans against the Allied & Axis powers but isn't able to wipe out the organisation. He also loses his childhood friend 'Bucky' who falls to his death down a ravine during the mission. He crashes Red Skull's plane developed by Hydra (the blueprint for American Cold War-era stealth aircraft) into the Arctic Ocean and because of his enhanced physiology he enters a crude sort of cryo-sleep..

Fast forward to the second film where Captain America has been revived and works for Shield; a secret organisation founded by his former lover shortly after he disappeared to carry on his work to defeat Hydra once and for all. Unfortunately Hydra have infiltrated Shield and plan to use the newest technology to enslave the world. Cap goes rogue (again) to bring Hydra down. In doing so he basically turns Shield loyalists against the Hydra infiltrators in their midst. He ends up having to fight an expert assassin known only as The Winter Soldier. As it turns out, it's his friend Bucky who not only didn't die, he was revived by Hydra, brainwashed and given cybernetic enhancements to serve as their puppet. Cap tries and fails to help Bucky break through the brainwashing but fails. The Winter Soldier escapes and at the end, Captain America, together with his new colleague and friend Falcon, serve try to look for him in between leading the Avengers into battle against the remaining Hydra cells still active on Earth (Age of Ultron).

I like Stark as a character - he gets the most laughs out of me. But I'm repping Team Cap because I disagree with the position Iron Man is taking on a philosophical basis.
I'd oppose restraints too.
So I'm hoping the movie plays out in a satisfying Iron Manly way.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
At this point, I'm team Iron Man. I am actually sympathetic to Stark in the comic version of Civil War, too. Now, from what I have seen, the plot in the movie will be different from the books. My guess is that Baron Zemo will carry out terrorist attacks that will be blamed on Bucky. At the end, everyone will figure out they are being played and take the fight to Hydra.

So you think the whole idea to have a list of all the people with superpowers is a Hydra plot as well? That's my thinking too and it's probably one of the reasons Cap opposes it. The events of The Winter Soldier seem to have made him extremely distrustful of centralised power structures.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Nobody. :(

The Hulk will not be appearing in the movie. Don't know how they will explain his absence. In the comic version, Tony Stark launches Banner into outer space before everything really goes down.

Tough choice then,

On the one hand, I don't want Thor on my bad side. On the other hand, how the hell can you follow someone who dresses like this:
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von bek

Well-Known Member
So you think the whole idea to have a list of all the people with superpowers is a Hydra plot as well? That's my thinking too and it's probably one of the reasons Cap opposes it.

Well, my thinking is that Hydra will be behind the attack(s) that specifically spark the movie's narrative. If there is some version of the Registration Act in the movie, it will most likely be a legitimate (even if misguided) idea from the U.S., U.N., or others and not Hydra.

The events of The Winter Soldier seem to have made him extremely distrustful of centralised power structures.

His reasons are not wrong, given his experience.

If I may go back to the comic version, if you look at the rationale underlying the Act in the comics, it is not bad. Imagine living in a world where the 10 year-old kid living next door can blow things up with his mind. People are turning into all sorts of crazy things and putting on all sorts of crazy outfits while they level city blocks.
 
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