Cardinal Raymond Burke vs Pope Francis

[Estro Felino]

I really admire this Cardinal...I hope he will become Pope someday. .
Above all he will get support from the rightist parties in the Italian Republic.

 

[Revoltingest]

He looks a lot like George Costanza.

 

[Altfish]

I really admire this Cardinal...I hope he will become Pope someday. .
Above all he will get support from the rightist parties in the Italian Republic.

If he were to become pope it would be the end of the Catholic Church; he is against everything progressive. (That might be a good thing)
Having said that since the US and Europe seem hell bent on going back to the 16th Century he'll probably get elected

 

[Debater Slayer]

I really admire this Cardinal...I hope he will become Pope someday. .

I wouldn't be surprised. The Catholic Church can't stoop lower than shielding child abusers and pedophiles among its ranks, after all.

Above all he will get support from the rightist parties in the Italian Republic.

That does say quite a bit about him. I'm sure a healthy dose of fascists and neo-Nazis might be all too willing to support his views. Birds of a feather and all that.

I like what someone once told me: "If you walk inside sewers, don't be surprised to be surrounded by cockroaches."

 

[Rival]

He's against unbridled immigration.

So are most people.

That's literally it.

 

[Estro Felino]

If he were to become pope it would be the end of the Catholic Church;

Well...shouldn't you be more concerned about the Church of England?

 

[Altfish]

Well...shouldn't you be more concerned about the Chudch of England?

No, they're dying already

 

[metis]

I don't see this as a Burke v Francis thingy after listening to the recording. As Catholics, we have the Christ-mandated duty to try and help those in need, but that doesn't amount to just throwing open the borders of a country to anyone. If we can't can't help all here, and I would propose that we realistically can't, then we should do our best to help them where they live.

Tragically and immorally, imo, Trump pulled all of our aid to the Northern Triangle Countries, so where are the right-wingers in regards to getting on Trump's case about that deplorable action? Common sense should have it that if we don't help them there then may will leave to come here.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

He's against unbridled immigration.

So are most people.

That's literally it.

That's not literally it at all. There are a whole range of things in which he's at odds with the current Pope.

This includes his views on proselytizing, particularly around other 'peoples of the book'.
He's claimed that a large percentage of the global population are in open apostasy (which, incidentally, I'd agree with).
He's taken a stand against any moves to ordain married men.

I'm not going to get into who is right and wrong in a theological sense. It's not really my place, and ultimately I'm not sure it moves anything in the 'right' direction. Burke would clearly see theological 'correctness' and the world moving in the right direction as being one and the same, but I don't have to.

However, they are vastly different in terms of their approaches to the church, and to how they think the church should approach the world. In many, many ways.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I really admire this Cardinal...I hope he will become Pope someday. .
Above all he will get support from the rightist parties in the Italian Republic.

I would say he has the courage of his convictions. So there's that.
But I wouldn't like to see him as Pope. At all.

 

[Rival]

That's not literally it at all. There are a whole range of things in which he's at odds with the current Pope.

This includes his views on proselytizing, particularly around other 'peoples of the book'.
He's claimed that a large percentage of the global population are in open apostasy (which, incidentally, I'd agree with).
He's taken a stand against any moves to ordain married men.

I'm not going to get into who is right and wrong in a theological sense. It's not really my place, and ultimately I'm not sure it moves anything in the 'right' direction. Burke would clearly see theological 'correctness' and the world moving in the right direction as being one and the same, but I don't have to.

However, they are vastly different in terms of their approaches to the church, and to how they think the church should approach the world. In many, many ways.

Well yeah, he's a Catholic. What was anyone expecting? Big deal.

Also my comment was only intended to be about what he says in the video itself.