Cause of antisemitism

[jeager106]

Persecution???? Because of Religion? The MOST persecuted religious people have
ALWAYS BEEN CHRISTIANS by MUSLIMS.
"Over the past year, I have written of the intolerance that Christians have shown to Muslims in the U.S. From Missouri to Murphreesboro, Christians have demonstrated both a lack of charity and a denial of the right to religious liberty by setting fire to old mosques and opposing new ones. But Christians in the U.S. are rank amateurs compared to the Muslim persecution of Christians in the Middle East."
Source:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-james-clark/christianity-most-persecuted-religion_b_2402644.html
Read and become enlightened.

"Christianity is facing elimination in its Biblical homeland. Between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have departed or been killed over the past century. Short attributes the intolerance and violence towards Christians to the rising Islamicization of Middle Eastern countries. Some of the oppression is government sanctioned and some government permitted; most is government ignored."

 

[Quagmire]

Persecution???? Because of Religion? The MOST persecuted religious people have
ALWAYS BEEN CHRISTIANS by MUSLIMS.
"Over the past year, I have written of the intolerance that Christians have shown to Muslims in the U.S. From Missouri to Murphreesboro, Christians have demonstrated both a lack of charity and a denial of the right to religious liberty by setting fire to old mosques and opposing new ones. But Christians in the U.S. are rank amateurs compared to the Muslim persecution of Christians in the Middle East."
Source:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-james-clark/christianity-most-persecuted-religion_b_2402644.html
Read and become enlightened.

It's not a contest.

 

[jeager106]

It's not a contest.

No it isn't. Wasn't meant that way. Just interesting stats lest we forget Christians
get most of the persecution world wide yet get little to NO press.

 

[Quagmire]

No it isn't. Wasn't meant that way. Just interesting stats lest we forget Christians
get most of the persecution world wide yet get little to NO press.

"lest we forget " is one of the take-away messages of this thread.

And your point would also make a good thread, but it's a little out of place in this one.

 

[jeager106]

"lest we forget " is one of the take-away messages of this thread.

And your point would also make a good thread, but it's a little out of place in this one.

O.K. got'cha!.

 

[Maponos]

How many generations do you have to live in someone else's country before it becomes your country?

How wasn't it there country? They were not citizens?

They're not a native people to the land. They originally came from the Near East.

From time to time I have come across people who were different then the majority. Burning down there homes, businesses and murdering them never crossed my mind. Gee, what's wrong with me?

I'm not sure how you jump from being suspicious to burning down homes.

 

[Flankerl]

There's absolutely no need to be rude. I tried googling Jews being hunted during Christmas, but nothing came up.. I'm aware that Jews have been persecuted (and, surprisingly, they aren't the only people persecuted in history), but you can't live in someone else's country and have a very alien culture to theirs and not expect people to be suspicious of you.

The Jewish name for Christmas is Nittel Nacht. A day of joy where one wasn't allowed to leave their home and wait for the fun neighbours who might show up.
But don't worry, Easter was worse.

"Someone else's country and have a very alien culture to theirs"
- In the areas of Europe which belonged to the Roman Empire Jews had been there longer than Christianity
But then again the Poles treated us better even though we weren't there longer.

Also the idea of "someones country" did not exist during the Medieval age.

And I wasn't rude, you'll know when I am rude.

It's used as a very derogatory term all the time.

On Tumblr? Well I am not sorry because Tumblr is a pile of ****.
But please tell me more how Jews use their own language.

They're not a native people to the land. They originally came from the Near East.

Well screw me, Christianity is also not the native Religion to the land. It originally came from the Middle East.

I'm not sure how you jump from being suspicious to burning down homes.

Probably because that was the reality.

The MOST persecuted religious people have
ALWAYS BEEN CHRISTIANS by MUSLIMS.

No not really. What has been happening in the Middle East is a more recent phenomenon.

 

[LuisDantas]

It is an unfortunate trait of human social nature that it tends to think in terms of rival groups and mutually exclusive allegiances.

Hitler's Holocaust specifically seems to have been caused by the need of a target group to mobilize nationalistic and supremacist movements. But antisemitism, even explicitly murderous antisemitism, goes back a lot longer than that and has many different immediate causes. I figure in a lot of cases it was caused by some combination of greed, expansionism and simple fear of different cultures.

I wish I knew a bit more about Arabic antisemitism specifically.

 

[roger1440]

I'm not sure how you jump from being suspicious to burning down homes.

Look up the "Night of broken glass."

 

[roger1440]

But what did the Jews do so bad that six million were killed and the entire race supposedly alliminated?

All they had to do was to be a Jew

 

[jeager106]

Sadly there are individuals and groups that DENY there was a holocaust of any kind
at any place caused by any government.
Looks like de Nile (denial) is just a river in Africa.
How could anyone believe the systematic torture and murder of 6 million people by
the Hitler regime was mere propaganda?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

 

[rosends]

Antisemitism has religious, nationalistic and economic root causes. The overlap between those forces has helped it spring up repeatedly over the last 3000 years.

 

[Maponos]

Look up the "Night of broken glass."

I'm not talking about the holocaust. Contrary to popular belief, the world doesn't revolve around it.

 

[roger1440]

Antisemitism has religious, nationalistic and economic root causes. The overlap between those forces has helped it spring up repeatedly over the last 3000 years.

That may be true but antisemitism gained rapid momentum once Constantine made Christianity the state religion. Constantine wanted both a unified empire and a unified religion. The very word “Catholic” comes from the Latin word “catholicus”. The word literally means “universal”. Back then there was no separation between church and state. To be against the Church would be against the state, hence, an enemy of the state. The Holocaust is the best example of the metaphor of putting a frog in hot water.

If you place a frog in water, very slowly bring up the temperature the frog will not notice the change. Over time the frog will boil to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

 

[Maponos]

The Jewish name for Christmas is Nittel Nacht. A day of joy where one wasn't allowed to leave their home and wait for the fun neighbours who might show up.
But don't worry, Easter was worse.

I can't believe something just because someone says so.

"Someone else's country and have a very alien culture to theirs"
- In the areas of Europe which belonged to the Roman Empire Jews had been there longer than Christianity
But then again the Poles treated us better even though we weren't there longer.

What does Christianity have to do with this?

Also the idea of "someones country" did not exist during the Medieval age.

It doesn't matter if the idea existed or didn't. The fact is that Jews were and are a foreign people.

And I wasn't rude, you'll know when I am rude.

Yes, you were and are. You're being quite rude and hostile.

On Tumblr? Well I am not sorry because Tumblr is a pile of ****.
But please tell me more how Jews use their own language.

And yet there are Jews on there who are very into their Jewishness and act in accordingly (the way I mentioned before).
Well, I'd assume someone who was fluent in English would understand the nuances of language and how some people can use foreign words to describe a group of people disparagingly. Take the Japanese word 'gaijin', for example. It just means 'foreigner' but it can also be used as an insult for foreign people.

Well screw me, Christianity is also not the native Religion to the land. It originally came from the Middle East.

What does Christianity have to do with this?

Probably because that was the reality.

It most definitely wasn't the reality for everyone. That would be a gross overstatement and just pure intellectual dishonesty.

 

[roger1440]

I'm not talking about the holocaust. Contrary to popular belief, the world doesn't revolve around it.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (George Santayana)

 

[Maponos]

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (George Santayana)

And who is forgetting it? There's completely ignoring it happened and then there's moving on.

 

[rosends]

I can't believe something just because someone says so.

What if two people, or an entire religion says so? You can look up Nittel Nacht if you would like. It's a real thing -- some Jews, even today, do not study Torah on that night as a reminder of the threats in Eastern Europe on the evening of the 24th.

It doesn't matter if the idea existed or didn't. The fact is that Jews were and are a foreign people.

I guess I don't understand how you use the word "foreign" here. I live in the US. Am I a foreigner? Was my great-grandfather a foreigner when he headed a community in Hungary? Is one a foreigner by virtue of religion? Isn't most everyone, ultimately, a foreigner?

 

[rosends]

And who is forgetting it? There's completely ignoring it happened and then there's moving on.

Every July 4th, Americans commemorate their independence. In fact, with every singing of the national anthem or repeating of the pledge of allegiance, American independence is celebrated. Should America just move on and stop celebrating its successes? Should groups just forget about the tragedies that affected them? The question was asked about anti-semitism. it would be strange not include the holocaust.

 

[Tumah]

use a lot of derogatory or disparaging words for non-Jews (Goyim/Goy, if I'm correct).

Goy/Goyim is one word. Not a lot. And it means "nation". As in "and you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation (goy)"

How derogatory.