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Cause of antisemitism

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
Historically, Jews have often set themselves apart from society and formed a very strange (according to the native people of the land they're living in) subculture.

I've met Jews who are actually quite arrogant (there are a lot of them on Tumblr, for instances) and use a lot of derogatory or disparaging words for non-Jews (Goyim/Goy, if I'm correct).
 
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Corthos

Great Old One
Hmmm... Honestly, I couldn't tell you the main "cause" of antisemitism off the top of my head; it's roots run deep, and have been that way for a very long time. I'm sure you can find some answers with a little research in those regards. =)

As for the holocaust itself, it wasn't an isolated incident. Folks in Europe had been persecuting Jews for hundreds of (maybe even more than a thousand) years. There have been many incidents in the past where Jews were killed en-masse for one reason or another. Hitler simply dug up the antisemitic predisposition that the majority already had, and he was then able to use it as an ideological weapon to further his control over the German population (this fervor enabled him to set the holocaust into motion, and the rest is history).
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Unfortunate religious views that dehumanized Jews and caused them to be viewed as other.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Hitler simply dug up the antisemitic predisposition that the majority already had, and he was then able to use it as an ideological weapon to further his control over the German population (this fervor enabled him to set the holocaust into motion, and the rest is history).
I don't think it was a majority view back then, but they made much use of the existing potential.
 

Corthos

Great Old One
But what did the Jews do so bad that six million were killed and the entire race supposedly alliminated?

You have to remember that the loss of the first world war was still fresh on the minds of the German people. They were looking for someone to blame, and Hitler gave them someone...

What makes it so scary, is that this scenario could still happen in the west even today. If not with Jews, then with Muslims, or many other cultural/ethnic groups. As for the rest of the world, genocide is happening right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Yazidis_by_ISIL

Just one example of many...
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
After the Babylonian exile, the Jewish leaders separated themselves from their neighbours. They banned intermarriage, and forced men with non-Jewish wives to divorce or leave the community. For the next 2500 years the Jews maintained their isolation whenever possible. Under the circumstances, gentile suspicion was natural, if unnecessary.

As for the situation in Germany, consider two contrasting events that occurred before WW1. The President of the Board of Deputies of British Jews ended an after-dinner speech with the remark that there was no prouder claim that a man could make than to describe himself as an English man of Jewish faith: loud applause. Around the same time a German, writing in a Jewish newspaper, described himself as a German of Jewish faith: hostile replies. One writer (Jewish, remember) said that no true Jew could call himself a German: the Jews were a race or they were nothing. It was unfortunate for that writer that some Germans agreed with him! Incidentally, he was Albert Einstein.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Historically, Jews have often set themselves apart from society and formed a very strange (according to the native people of the land they're living in) subculture.

Meanwhile in reality non-Jews forbid Jews to do certain Jobs, had them wear distinctive clothes ordered them to live in separate quarters of the city or outside the city and hunted them down from time to time (every Christmas).

But hey I bet it was totally our idea.


I've met who are actually quite arrogant (there are a lot of them on Tumblr, for instances) and use a lot of derogatory or disparaging words for non-Jews (Goyim/Goy, if I'm correct).

Tumblr. lol

Goy (plural Goyim) is not a derogatory term Gentile/Non Jew/Maponos.



After the Babylonian exile, the Jewish leaders separated themselves from their neighbours. They banned intermarriage, and forced men with non-Jewish wives to divorce or leave the community. For the next 2500 years the Jews maintained their isolation whenever possible. Under the circumstances, gentile suspicion was natural, if unnecessary.

:facepalm:
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
But what did the Jews do so bad that six million were killed and the entire race supposedly alliminated?
Not converting to the religion of the people in power and not adopting the culture of the majority of the land. Look at what happened to Amernians, Bosnians, Albigensians etc. If a new religion took power in my country I and my family would be one the first "converts".
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What's the cause of antisemitism and particularly the holocaust?
That's an excellent question.

A friend of mine used to quip its because Jews did things so well and so successful that people just hated them for that. :0)

Honestly it seems it's almost always influential people in power or a position that use scapegoats to villify and demean without taking anything anything into consideration through direct terms to ascertain if something is actually justified or not for said villification.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Hitler used Jews, a minority in Germany, as a scapegoat for ALL of Germany's
post war issues. A collapsing economy, inability to compete with the other industrial
nations at that time, shortages of food, medicine & skilled labor, the huge DEBT
incurred from fighting the 1st War, and the RESTRICTIVE SANCTIONS imposed
on Germany after the Armistice ( 1st war).
Germany was grossly restricted, militarily & economically, by the treaties after the end
of hostilities of WW1.
( note: Germany didn't "hide" the building of battleships or an Airforce very well. The "world" did little to protest Germany's outright violation of the Armistice that ended WWI. But was there really an Armistice at all?)
 

roger1440

I do stuff
Hitler used Jews, a minority in Germany, as a scapegoat for ALL of Germany's
post war issues. A collapsing economy, inability to compete with the other industrial
nations at that time, shortages of food, medicine & skilled labor, the huge DEBT
incurred from fighting the 1st War, and the RESTRICTIVE SANCTIONS imposed
on Germany after the Armistice ( 1st war).
Germany was grossly restricted, militarily & economically, by the treaties after the end
of hostilities of WW1.
( note: Germany didn't "hide" the building of battleships or an Airforce very well. The "world" did little to protest Germany's outright violation of the Armistice that ended WWI. But was there really an Armistice at all?)
Germany was not allowed to have a military over 100,000. By 1939 it's military was 4,722,000+. That amounts to 47 times the allowed amount.
Check out the numbers here. Look under "Wehrmacht". http://www.feldgrau.com/stats.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles#Military_restrictions
 

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
Meanwhile in reality non-Jews forbid Jews to do certain Jobs, had them wear distinctive clothes ordered them to live in separate quarters of the city or outside the city and hunted them down from time to time (every Christmas).

There's absolutely no need to be rude. I tried googling Jews being hunted during Christmas, but nothing came up.. I'm aware that Jews have been persecuted (and, surprisingly, they aren't the only people persecuted in history), but you can't live in someone else's country and have a very alien culture to theirs and not expect people to be suspicious of you.

Goy (plural Goyim) is not a derogatory term Gentile/Non Jew/Maponos.

It's used as a very derogatory term all the time.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
There's absolutely no need to be rude. I tried googling Jews being hunted during Christmas, but nothing came up.. I'm aware that Jews have been persecuted (and, surprisingly, they aren't the only people persecuted in history), but you can't live in someone else's country and have a very alien culture to theirs and not expect people to be suspicious of you.
.

How many generations do you have to live in someone else's country before it becomes your country?
 

roger1440

I do stuff
There's absolutely no need to be rude. I tried googling Jews being hunted during Christmas, but nothing came up.. I'm aware that Jews have been persecuted (and, surprisingly, they aren't the only people persecuted in history), but you can't live in someone else's country and have a very alien culture to theirs and not expect people to be suspicious of you.


It's used as a very derogatory term all the time.
How wasn't it there country? They were not citizens?
 

roger1440

I do stuff
There's absolutely no need to be rude. I tried googling Jews being hunted during Christmas, but nothing came up.. I'm aware that Jews have been persecuted (and, surprisingly, they aren't the only people persecuted in history), but you can't live in someone else's country and have a very alien culture to theirs and not expect people to be suspicious of you.

It's used as a very derogatory term all the time.
From time to time I have come across people who were different then the majority. Burning down there homes, businesses and murdering them never crossed my mind. Gee, what's wrong with me?
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
From time to time I have come across people who were different then the majority. Burning down there homes, businesses and murdering them never crossed my mind. Gee, what's wrong with me?

Just not patriotic I guess.
 
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