Charlie Hebdo makes headlines again: (mis)using Queen of England?

[stvdv]

Charlie Hebdo makes headlines again: (mis)using Queen of England?

@stvdvRF

 

[Spirit of Light]

Charlie Hebdo makes headlines again: (mis)using Queen of England?

@stvdvRF

I kind of get the idea about making jokes (something i did not understand before)
It is not about hurting others, it is about opening the eyes of people,
I remember reacting with anger when the Muhammad drawings was out, but actually why should i get angry? it was not about me, nor is this new magazine with its jokes. So maybe this magazine only trying to use "extreme" points to gain a more open society?

 

[Debater Slayer]

Charlie Hebdo is mostly fueled by a juvenile desire to attract attention and outrage. Clearly, judging by how much press its lazy, poorly made cartoons get, the cheap trick is working out well so far.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Je suis Charlie.

 

[ChristineM]

This was published in France under French law.

 

[Altfish]

Charlie Hebdo makes a living out of offending people. Please carry on.

 

[Nakosis]

Charlie Hebdo makes headlines again: (mis)using Queen of England?

@stvdvRF

I think the question is whether freedom of expression is more beneficial than detrimental.

I think it to be more beneficial but I'm not easily offended. If we allow free speech I think we have to accept the risk of being offended by it.
Sometimes I need to be offended by the world. I need my morals tested. Political cartoons are meant to offend someone. That's intended.

Lots of offensive political memes. This is just one among many. I think we have to accept the risk of being offended by the views of others.

 

[stvdv]

I think the question is whether freedom of expression is more beneficial than detrimental.

I think it to be more beneficial but I'm not easily offended. If we allow free speech I think we have to accept the risk of being offended by it.
Sometimes I need to be offended by the world. I need my morals tested. Political cartoons are meant to offend someone. That's intended.

Lots of offensive political memes. This is just one among many. I think we have to accept the risk of being offended by the views of others.

Yes, I see that this is very much needed in this sick world

Humanity is still one big mess of dirt
You need a thorn to remove a thorn
So, I think this type of thorn is needed

When humans really transform as a whole then Charlie Hebdo cartoons will evolve with the new transformation
As long as people indulge in negative news, negative news they will get
Law of Economics: Law of supply and demand

 

[Earthtank]

Charlie Hebdo makes a living out of offending people. Please carry on.

Too bad (or luckily) he's not in the US or he would have been cancelled

 

[Altfish]

Too bad (or luckily) he's not in the US or he would have been cancelled

Who's 'He'?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Too bad (or luckily) he's not in the US or he would have been cancelled

Probably for his (and by his I mean the owner of Charlie Hebdo magazine, Riss) father, son and holy spirit gay sex and 'God isn't real' comics. He's been sued 13 times by catholic organizations.
'I'm an atheist so **** off' he said. Which is pretty typical of the angry atheist shock jocks. Which wouldn't incline me to cancel them so much as yawn.

 

[Earthtank]

Who's 'He'?

"He" is the French satirical magazine aka Charlie

 

[stvdv]

So maybe this magazine only trying to use "extreme" points to gain a more open society?

I think that this is the whole idea behind it (at least I hope so, because otherwise it would not make much sense, nor being of any use IMO)

You need a thorn to remove a thorn. The world is 1 big mess of violence (mental/physical/verbal); hence a minor violence is needed. Like an operation ... you can compare it with a surgeon, who uses a knife to cut out a cancer. The cartoons are used to help to cut out cancerous thoughts.

 

[Altfish]

"He" is the French satirical magazine aka Charlie

Shouldn't a magazine be 'It' ?

 

[Earthtank]

Shouldn't a magazine be 'It' ?

yes, you are correct

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Probably for his (and by his I mean the owner of Charlie Hebdo magazine, Riss) father, son and holy spirit gay sex and 'God isn't real' comics. He's been sued 13 times by catholic organizations.
'I'm an atheist so **** off' he said. Which is pretty typical of the angry atheist shock jocks. Which wouldn't incline me to cancel them so much as yawn.

Me too. These sort of guys (be they religious or anti-religious) need publicity to breathe. I'm not sure why they people that most dislike them seem most keen to provide oxygen.
With relation to the OP, I'm fine for magazines to do this. I personally dislike it, and would never buy it. Seems like cheap and juvenile crap to me personally.

 

[stvdv]

"He" is the French satirical magazine aka Charlie

Shouldn't a magazine be 'It' ?

yes, you are correct

There are some (Elle..french) exceptions

Some (She) exceptions

Some (He) exceptions even

Probably many more

 

[stvdv]

Probably for his (and by his I mean the owner of Charlie Hebdo magazine, Riss) father, son and holy spirit gay sex and 'God isn't real' comics. He's been sued 13 times by catholic organizations.
'I'm an atheist so **** off' he said. Which is pretty typical of the angry atheist shock jocks. Which wouldn't incline me to cancel them so much as yawn.

Sometimes it seems some people get away with whatever they say or do
He probably still has some positive karma left...in which he does not believe of course

RF "asterixed" some letters in your quote, but my first guess was right. I did like quite a few points in this Charlie Hebdo article

Stigmatisation of atheism is the rule; its promotion is the exception. Today, everyone is proud of what he or she is or has: sexual identity, physique, illness, cancer or handicap. That’s why today there are even Paralympic Games. But curiously, there’s no movement promoting pride in being atheist. A big “I’m atheist so **** off” campaign should be launched

Makes sense to me ... I can see that as a natural response when a religious person tries to impose his religion on me, because imposing your religion on others is disrespectful, belittling, arrogant ... just not humane (as per my definition of humane). So a "shock reply" might be the only solution, as many proselytizers don't take NO for an answer, let alone that they decide to stop their disrespectful belittling attitude

Simply declaring your atheism, without denigrating any other religion, without even mentioning one, will help you understand what it must have been like for Stephen Hawking to put up with his other handicap.

And this is the powerful reply IMO. Very important that one can share one's view; that is what Freedom of Speech is all about

 

[stvdv]

Me too. These sort of guys (be they religious or anti-religious) need publicity to breathe. I'm not sure why they people that most dislike them seem most keen to provide oxygen.
With relation to the OP, I'm fine for magazines to do this. I personally dislike it, and would never buy it. Seems like cheap and juvenile crap to me personally.

Though the way it is brought is not always my way, I can sympathize with quite a few things that were said in this article (click this link)

 

[Revoltingest]

- The cartoon is stoopid.
- The Queen is irrelevant.
- Markel seems a professional victim, milking
her newly crafted fame for a political career.
- Harry is one of those people....a ginger.