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Check Out Where Your State Ranks Taxwise

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Given that Illinois has such high property taxes, I wonder how its public school system is doing? That's what most property taxes seem to be used for.

I grew up there during a time when the public schools were fairly good even in rural areas --- once you got out of the South Side of Chicago, of course. But recalling Illinois politics, I would not be surprised if Illinois today ranks first in the nation for property taxes and no where near first for public schools. I don't know, but I would not be surprised. Illinois has a long and distinguished history of fiscal irresponsibility.

EDIT: Well, call me "surprised". As it turns out, Illinois is seventh in the nation for the quality of its public schools. My apologies.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/public-school-rankings-by-state/
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
from the opening post linked list......


1) Illinois governer....... Democrat

2) Connecticut governor...Democrat

3) New York governor.....Democrat

4) Wisconsin governor...Democrat

5) New Jersey governor....Democrat

6) Nebraska governor...Republican

7) Pennsylvania governor...Democrat

8) Ohio governor.... Republican

9) Iowa governor... Republican

10) Kansas Governor... Democrat

Democrat in 2020?

Screw that.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
from the opening post linked list......


1) Illinois governer....... Democrat

2) Connecticut governor...Democrat

3) New York governor.....Democrat

4) Wisconsin governor...Democrat

5) New Jersey governor....Democrat

6) Nebraska governor...Republican

7) Pennsylvania governor...Democrat

8) Ohio governor.... Republican

9) Iowa governor... Republican

10) Kansas Governor... Democrat

Democrat in 2020?

Screw that.

Well, on law of averages, and looking only at tax, that's a fine position.
But specifics matter. Consider Nebraska vs Nevada.

Overall, might be best to vote for whomever is going to provide the best government at a given point in time.
Barracking for a 'team' seems simplistic at best.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Given how often the right complains about how tax California, the fact that TX and CA are on the same scale causes me to chuckle. I'm not waiting for anyone on the right in this forum to admit error.

But overall tax rate is not the only important measure. With money as the input, it would be nice to know which states are most efficient at delivering services both from spending money wisely and the benefits derived.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well, on law of averages, and looking only at tax, that's a fine position.
But specifics matter. Consider Nebraska vs Nevada.

Overall, might be best to vote for whomever is going to provide the best government at a given point in time.
Barracking for a 'team' seems simplistic at best.
I call it putting all the pieces on the table and looking at it. It makes for some interesting pictures.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Given how often the right complains about how tax California, the fact that TX and CA are on the same scale causes me to chuckle. I'm not waiting for anyone on the right in this forum to admit error.

But overall tax rate is not the only important measure. With money as the input, it would be nice to know which states are most efficient at delivering services both from spending money wisely and the benefits derived.
I wonder how much of those overall taxes are compulsory and which ones are voluntary. I'm willing to bet the list would change quite a bit.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't mind the increase in the fuel tax here, provided this actually goes to maintaining our roads, this makes me feel even better about owning a Tesla.
I favor high fuel taxes to discourage driving & associated pollution.
I also hate Tesla, but I won't hold it against you.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I wonder how much of those overall taxes are compulsory and which ones are voluntary. I'm willing to bet the list would change quite a bit.
Voluntary taxes? Taxes are not voluntary. If you own property, buy things or work, the resulting taxes are by law.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Voluntary taxes? Taxes are not voluntary. If you own property, buy things or work, the resulting taxes are by law.
Of course they're voluntary. You don't have to buy some products that are taxed, you can buy less gas, use less services etc.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't mind the increase in the fuel tax here, provided this actually goes to maintaining our roads, this makes me feel even better about owning a Tesla.
You know I wouldn't mind half as much as they actually did use it for the roads and the like. Half the BS they spew out never actually gets realized for the intended purpose. If anything, that money gets put into a slush fund for some unrelated pork barrel project.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Of course they're voluntary. You don't have to buy some products that are taxed, you can buy less gas, use less services etc.
...& don't have to earn money.
Nah.
If one does things, taxes are involuntary.
Were they voluntary, I could do those things, & say...
"No thanx, I'll skip paying the tax."
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Of course they're voluntary. You don't have to buy some products that are taxed, you can buy less gas, use less services etc.
By that standard, you can avoid property taxes by not owning property and income taxes by minimizing your income. That's not really 'voluntary' in the dictionary sense of choosing to pay or not to pay.
 
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