Child rapist/killer used as guinea pig for first time new drug combo for his execution.

[Twilight Hue]

In light of the extreme severity of his crimes, there is understandably little remorse in regards to his personal comfort while undergoing execution.

Still, it does beg the question as to wither it is appropriate to try something "new" regarding executions. Do we really need "new " and or "improved " methodologies in light of whats already proven effective concerning this?

Imo if it's going to be done, stick with whats proven already. I wonder if it's rather draconian or somewhat compassionate depending on perspective to continually think of new ways in regards to killing a person effectively.

Thoughts?

In Ohio Execution, State Will Use Untried Drug Combo | TIME.com

 

[Aquitaine]

In light of the extreme severity of his crimes, there is understandably little remorse in regards to his personal comfort while undergoing execution.

Still, it does beg the question as to wither it is appropriate to try something "new" regarding executions. Do we really need "new " and or "improved " methodologies in light of whats already proven effective concerning this?

Imo if it's going to be done, stick with whats proven already. I wonder if it's rather draconian or somewhat compassionate depending on perspective to continually think of new ways in regards to killing a person effectively.

Thoughts?

I've always wondered why we test things on animals when we have these actual "animals" we could test things on!

I'll admit we probably don't need to improve what methods we already have, but to be perfectly honest with you I struggle to have any sympathy for this individual.

 

[Revoltingest]

So much research, development & application work have been done
on killing people that you'd think we'd have it down pat by now.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

I've always wondered why we test things on animals when we have these actual "animals" we could test things on!

I'll admit we probably don't need to improve what methods we already have, but to be perfectly honest with you I struggle to have any sympathy for this individual.

same, struggling to care

 

[Iti oj]

We should use people like him for medical, scientific, and cosmetic research.

 

[psychoslice]

Why should we lower ourselves down to the criminals level just to have revenge, it doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Dingbat]

Why should we lower ourselves down to the criminals level just to have revenge, it doesn't make sense to me.

The average age of Child Pornography victims is usually 10 months old. I have zero sympathy.

 

[Aquitaine]

We should use people like him for medical, scientific, and cosmetic research.

Indeed. Who should be the ones experimented on: innocent animals, or guilty humans?

I know, I know - said idea would be impractical and have grave potential for abuse, but I do sometimes wonder why innocent animals have to be the ones to suffer, when we have people like this individual available.

 

[psychoslice]

The average age of Child Pornography victims is usually 10 months old. I have zero sympathy.

I'm not saying to have sympathy, I'm saying we shouldn't lower ourselves down to their level, these people are not normal, something made them be that way, just be glad you weren't born to do the same thing.

 

[McBell]

Why should we lower ourselves down to the criminals level just to have revenge, it doesn't make sense to me.

revenge?
Interesting that you jump to that conclusion.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Indeed. Who should be the ones experimented on: innocent animals, or guilty humans?

I know, I know - said idea would be impractical and have grave potential for abuse, but I do sometimes wonder why innocent animals have to be the ones to suffer, when we have people like this individual available.

I totally agree. I was just thinking of that last night. It's not right to do it to innocent creatures, especially when we have a never ending supply of death row inmates.

 

[Poisonshady313]

In light of the extreme severity of his crimes, there is understandably little remorse in regards to his personal comfort while undergoing execution.

Still, it does beg the question as to wither it is appropriate to try something "new" regarding executions. Do we really need "new " and or "improved " methodologies in light of whats already proven effective concerning this?

Imo if it's going to be done, stick with whats proven already. I wonder if it's rather draconian or somewhat compassionate depending on perspective to continually think of new ways in regards to killing a person effectively.

Thoughts?

Regarding perspective... let's keep this in perspective. They're not trying to think of new ways to kill a person effectively for fun. The European manufacturer of pentobarbital is refusing to sell it to the State of Ohio.


I think all remaining death penalty states should just settle on one effective method of execution, because one of the biggest wastes of time and resources is appeals challenging the method of execution.

We should delay executions because the drugs being used might not be safe and effective? They're being used to put a murderer to death. If the drug cocktail isn't lethal enough, let an officer put a bullet through the condemned murderer's head, and be done with it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Update to OP.

Source link added.

 

[Falvlun]

Regarding perspective... let's keep this in perspective. They're not trying to think of new ways to kill a person effectively for fun. The European manufacturer of pentobarbital is refusing to sell it to the State of Ohio.


I think all remaining death penalty states should just settle on one effective method of execution, because one of the biggest wastes of time and resources is appeals challenging the method of execution.

We should delay executions because the drugs being used might not be safe and effective? They're being used to put a murderer to death. If the drug cocktail isn't lethal enough, let an officer put a bullet through the condemned murderer's head, and be done with it.

That's about how I feel too.

I don't think that death row inmates should be used as test animals. That sounds too Dr. Mengele-ish for me.

And, really, what is the matter with a bullet to the brain? Or those air bolts, like in No Country for Old Men?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't think that death row inmates should be used as test animals. That sounds too Dr. Mengele-ish for me.

But it's okay to do it to non-humans? Besides, Mengele used innocent people and children.

 

[psychoslice]

revenge?
Interesting that you jump to that conclusion.

So are you saying there is no revenge, interesting that you think that.

 

[Poisonshady313]

So are you saying there is no revenge, interesting that you think that.

The opinion that capital punishment is revenge is not a unanimous opinion.

 

[psychoslice]

The opinion that capital punishment is revenge is not a unanimous opinion.

Of course there is revenge no matter what you want to call it or however you try to hide it.

 

[Falvlun]

But it's okay to do it to non-humans? Besides, Mengele used innocent people and children.

I'm not really okay with it being done to animals too, but yes, I think it is better than testing on humans.

As for your differentiation between convicts and innocents, morally, I don't get it. Torture is wrong, regardless of who is being tortured, and medical torture seems to me to be particularly gruesome.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm not really okay with it being done to animals too, but yes, I think it is better than testing on humans.

As for your differentiation between convicts and innocents, morally, I don't get it. Torture is wrong, regardless of who is being tortured, and medical torture seems to me to be particularly gruesome.

If we have to do it to anyone, I'd prefer it be done on convicted murderers and violent rapists rather than innocent beings. A human's suffering is not more than a non-human's suffering.