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Children 'made more aggressive by video games'

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
I bet quite a few members will disagree with this:-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1742488,00.html
Britain
August 20, 2005
Children 'made more aggressive by video games'
By Ainsley Newson
SHOOT-’EM-UP video games increase aggressive behaviour in children and adolescents in the short and long term, according to an analysis of 20 years of research.
Gamers are rated as more hostile by their teachers, are more likely to argue with authority figures and are more likely to be involved in altercations with other students at school. They also tend to perform more poorly on academic tasks.
The analysis comes as a mother condemned the British makers of a game in which players act as bullies. On Thursday, Giselle Pakeerah, who blames the murder of her son on a violent video game, called for the game to be banned.

Researchers from Saint Leo University, in Florida, told the American Psychological Association’s annual conference yesterday, in Washington, that young people who played violent video games — even for a short period — showed an increase in aggressive behaviour afterwards.

Boys, who tend to play games for longer than girls, are particularly at risk. They are often exposed to imagery portraying women as subordinate. But girls who play violent games also demonstrate aggressive behaviour. After playing they prefer to interact with aggressive toys and are more aggressive when interacting with other children.

Kevin Kieffer, one of the researchers, said that players of violent video games “tend to imitate the moves that they just acted out in the game they played”. Children who play violent karate games on screen then use the same behaviour when playing with friends.

As increasingly violent games are released, this latest support for the long-held theory of a link between video games and violence offers little comfort to parents. Ms Pakeerah has called for tighter controls on games before the release of Bully, which features a pupil beating up classmates.

She claims that the game Manhunt inspired Warren Leblanc to kill her son, Stefan, 14, in a Leicester park last February. Players earn points for killings in the game.

Leblanc has been jailed for life, although Manhunt did not feature in the prosecution case against him. Manhunt and Bully are made by Rockstar Games.

Ms Pakeerah said: “I find it shockingly irresponsible because of bullying, which is in the public eye because of the effect it has on young people’s lives. People have been working very hard to stamp out bullying and now we have a game called Bully. This flags up a very important issue, that the computer games industry is not fully regulated.

“There needs to be an independent watchdog regulating the production of such games.”

Manhunt and Bully are only two of the violent games available. In Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, also made by Rockstar, players pick up prostitutes and deal in drugs. In Hitman: Blood Money, players shoot people for money. Five US groups last year declared these games among the ten most violent video games ever made.

Dr Kieffer and Jessica Nicoll, the study’s co-author, have called for further long-term studies to examine in detail the effects of video games on children.:p
 

Ori

Angel slayer
I disagree from personnal experience. I have been playing videogames since I was 4!
 

ch'ang

artist in training
I agree with Orichalcum on this one, they sure seem not to have influnced me at all.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
ch'ang said:
I agree with Orichalcum on this one, they sure seem not to have influnced me at all.
In that case, why are you so obsessed with getting that big ball up the hill ? -come on, admit it, you are compulsive.........:biglaugh:
 
chang said:
I agree with Orichalcum on this one, they sure seem not to have influnced me at all.
How could you possibly know such a thing without any basis for comparison? Do you have an identical twin who did not play video games?
 

ayani

member
i've observed my little brother playing video games, and i've decided that aggressive or inappropriate behaviour imitated by a kid will depend on the kid.

my brother used to act out things he saw in video games, most of them destructive. he once stripped of its leaves and killed a teacher's plant after seeing Link do the same on a Zelda game. he has also showed more aggressive, frustrated behaviour after my mom's let him watch violent or upsetting shows like Law & Order SVU (which in my opinion is way too intense and disturbing for a kid!).

those friends of my brother whom i know tend not to act out what they see in video games, aside from cardboard tube sword-play. still, i feel that playing violent video games should be reserved for older or more mature kids who can tell what is real and what belongs in the video game world.
 

Aqualung

Tasty
Yeah, I don't think it's the video games. I think it's the fact that their parents aren't doing a very good job of being a part of their lives, and then coincidentally they tend to fill that with video games. I think what leads to the violence is the same thing that led a kid to play video games all the time, not that the video games caused the violence
 

The Black Whirlwind

Well-Known Member
what, you think i'm agressive? huh, you think i'm aggressive?! who the heck do you think you are, punk?! I'm gonna get my dual submachine guns and blow your elite brains out!!! WHOOOOOO!!! Go Master Chief!!! WHOOOOO!!! *goes off and starts hitting things*
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
Children made aggressive by video games . Children made aggressive by role playing games . Children made aggressive by cartoons .... Come on people . Isn't it time to stop blaming other things and admit the the lack of guidance and parental skills are the real problems ?
 

Cynic

Well-Known Member
kreeden said:
Children made aggressive by video games . Children made aggressive by role playing games . Children made aggressive by cartoons .... Come on people . Isn't it time to stop blaming other things and admit the the lack of guidance and parental skills are the real problems ?
I concur
 
kreeden said:
Children made aggressive by video games . Children made aggressive by role playing games . Children made aggressive by cartoons .... Come on people . Isn't it time to stop blaming other things and admit the the lack of guidance and parental skills are the real problems ?
It's a bit misleading to talk about what is the "real" problem. Additional "guidance and parental skills" will alleviate the problems caused in kids by video games mainly if it results in kids playing less video games. As a study posted on the American Psychological Association's website says:
Parents have an important role to play. Psychologists have found that when parents limit the amount of time as well as the types of games their children play, children are less likely to show aggressive behaviors (Anderson et al., under review; Gentile et al., 2004). Other research suggests that active parental involvement in children's media usage-including discussing the inappropriateness of violent solutions to real life conflicts, reducing time spent on violent media, and generating alternative nonviolent solutions to problems-all can reduce the impact of media violence on children and youth (Anderson et al., 2003).
http://www.psychologymatters.org/videogames.html

If you follow that link and explore the website (for example, by searching the site for "video games") you will find plenty of research that demonstrates the harmful affects of violent games.

Let me be clear: I love video games. I play video games--some of them (like Half Life 2 and Battlefield 1942) are violent. I am not a criminal, or aggressive towards others in the least. But to think "Oh, well, I'm not a raving lunatic, therefore it may affect everyone else but it doesn't affect me" is sadly naive. The facts show overwhelmingly that yes, video games do affect you, just as commercials and culture and subliminal messages affect you--no matter how convinced you may be that they don't.
 

meogi

Well-Known Member
I'm with you, Spinks. Video games affect me greatly... although, thanks to my parents/society, I know what's portrayed in many of them is not acceptable in real life. I guess I should say that video games affect me greatly, but positively, as they are enjoyable... this goes for those around me as well.

The only negative that video games has affected me with is slight addiction. Cursed MMO games!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
They also tend to perform more poorly on academic tasks.
I have to completly disagree with that. The school I went to recently won an award for everyone in thier Cisco class doing well. The only reason they won that is because everyone cheated off of the only person who understood it. That kid plays violent video games rather frequently.

Children who play violent karate games on screen then use the same behaviour when playing with friends.
Some things I find wrong with this. One, the way that is worded implies that all children who play karate games imitate them. Two, not every person does imitate video games. And three, the way that is worded also implies there are non-violent karate games.

In Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, also made by Rockstar, players pick up prostitutes
Most of my friends play the GTA games. They realize that picking up prostitutes in real life is not a good thing to do. They all realize that there is a great risk of getting STDs.

She claims that the game Manhunt inspired Warren Leblanc to kill her son, Stefan, 14, in a Leicester park last February. Players earn points for killings in the game.
Then why aren't the thousands of others who have played Manhunt going out and killing people? It's a shame the media tries to get people to think correlation means causation, and what might be bad for one person is bad for everyone.
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Children absorb things, constantly. Playing video games and doing anything else will have some sort of an effect on the children, whether it be good or bad. Allowing a child to play too much of a violent game or watch too many horror/action/scary movies, as common sense would dictate, is a bad idea and will have some sort of a negative impact. To what extent this negative impact is to have on the child furthermore varies on the positive influences that the parents, friends, and family can also make on the child.

It is not right to blame a video game for a child's action. Everyone is responsible for their own actions but in the case of the child, it is the responsibility of the guardian or the parents, because they are the primary care-givers so it would make sense that they would control the ammount of violent games being played just as they would control food, allowences, chores, and other leverages.

In a partially related issue, in the words of the rapper Eminem -

"They say music can alter moods and talk to you,
Well can it load a gun up for you , and cock it too?
Well if it can, then the next time you assault a dude
Just tell the judge it was my fault and i'll get sued"

 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
Whatever happened to just being crazy? Can't anybody be crazy anymore? we gotta blame video games, movies, tv, food, breathing, living...can't some people just be crazy???:areyoucra
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
jewscout said:
Whatever happened to just being crazy? Can't anybody be crazy anymore? we gotta blame video games, movies, tv, food, breathing, living...can't some people just be crazy???:areyoucra
I played DOOM for many years, and I'm the nicest guy you'd wanna meet. If you disagree, I have a Plasma Rifle or BFG that says otherwise - (but personally I prefer the Chainsaw).
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
I played DOOM only once before deciding it... it was perhaps not the most appropriate game for me. Is it true that you can use a code and get sausage links to hit people with?

Since I tend to stick to role playing games, I'm not sure if they're the type of ones under discussion. I do know that, when I was playing "Final Fantasy XI", I would sometimes 'channel' my Mithra (cat-girl) character. Yes, that would make me more aggressive. But I sometimes need things to make me more aggressive. (Y'all might have noticed I have a tendancy back down easily!)
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
FeathersinHair said:
I played DOOM only once before deciding it... it was perhaps not the most appropriate game for me. Is it true that you can use a code and get sausage links to hit people with?
I don't know, Feathers.

I always played it on the PS2, and the only code I ever used was godmode.
 

Malus 12:9

Temporarily Deactive.
I brought this very same thing up ages ago.

I have been playing games like Doom, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Castlevanias, House of the Dead, etc for over a decade, along with horro flicks at the same time (real horror, not crap like Scream).

I have never gone out and shot people or lol, whipped people (castlevania) or had any physical
violence within me to go out and have a rampage.

I am with Kreeden on this one, MICH.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why are the parents never blamed? Its always the video game. The parents are at the sole discretion to give the child a guiding hand in a moral and ethical direction. If the parents are there for the child, and give it a good upbringing, then the video games want make them violent. If the parents aren't thier, and the child has a little social life, then no, the video games did not make the child kill people. The kid just decided "what the hell. Let them suffer."

I absolutly hate when the media says games train to kill by awarding extra points when the player shoots the head or chest area. Its just common since to know that if you shoot someone in the head, there is a very small chance there going to live through it. Same with shooting someone and hitting thier heart.
 
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