China to rewrite the Bible and the Quran to further Sinicize religion

[74x12]

If that is all the better you got, I have no choice but to dismiss it as wishful thinking on your part.

Sounds like we have our first "believer" in the new "God updated" Chinese government *approved* Bible.

 

[74x12]

You are the mirror image of the Mao era anti
American sloganeers. Except, of course,
things like "angrily denounce american capitalists
and their running dogs" does not involve any lies.

Communism is an evil on the world.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Now, wait, the Quron is a Special group... I wasn't thinking about that. In fact of course, its 600 years newer, so of course they win in Everything. Well anyway. So the Quoran always only has one version, the version with the direct ink directly from the Prophet Mohammad, in the Prophet's language, Arabic, and really, no Country is Muslim until it is a country speaking Arabic, for the Quran, true story. Western Imperialism sort of said, cut out Empires, try out nationalities, now failed states, that's cool, isn't it..

I'm sorry-- that simply isn't correct. If your acertation were accurate? There would ever only be just the one (1) flavor of Islam. Is that the case? Not even close-- a quick look at the Middle East, and we find that there are various factions of Islam in constant struggle with each other-- to the point of war, sometimes, over which version is the One True one. Moreover, there are many external writings too--which change the meaning of the Quaran directly and indirectly, (Haddiths? I think that's the term). So on two points, you're incorrect.

As for the Bible, if they aren't working from the Greek translation, isn't that already some obscure apocrypha, they're not trying to translate the Greek text of the Bible?.

Nope. Again, not even remotely accurate. Hebrew was the language of the Jews who authored the OT, and the NT was likely written in Aramaic, not Greek.

So on at least two points, we don't have the source-- we have hearsay, at best.

The Greek text is inspired by witnesses to God whom original meanings, without interviews of the subject, must be carefully observed? .

Incorrect. The NT, is all 2nd and 3rd and worse hand accounts-- Friend Of Friend stories, none of which are original, or direct witnesses of the Fantastic Tales.

The OT is even worse-- it mostly comes from a Non-Written Tradition-- Oral History. Which can easily be shown to be the least reliable of anything.

Too bad all of the Greek speaking Byzantine Empire and its history is entirely a Christian History lesson, in All its value, from the Anatolian town Nicaea, or the Anatolian town of Chalcedon, to Hagia Sophia, to the Parthenon, the Acropolis.

Not really accurate, sorry about that.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Communism is an evil on the world.

Psst: You misspelled "christianity"-- which, according to Acts? Was communistic... Irony.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

You apparently have not talked to a KJOnlyist

Possibly. The spelling is weird, and I do not frequent the more obscure corners of RF

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

As someone else already pointed out; it's because they're going to try to force it on Chinese Christians and Muslims. The Chinese government already heavily persecutes Christians and Muslims.

Considering the ugly history of each religion? Do you really blame them?

 

[74x12]

Psst: You misspelled "christianity"-- which, according to Acts? Was communistic... Irony.

There is more to communism than just having all things in common. The irony is the sickening things that communist states have done against Christians.

Considering the ugly history of each religion? Do you really blame them?

I'll excuse your post since clearly you don't know much about China's appalling history of persecution and inconceivable savagery against minority Christians and probably Muslims also; although admittedly I don't know as much about that part of the history.

 

[McBell]

Sounds like we have our first "believer" in the new "God updated" Chinese government *approved* Bible.

Drama Queen much?
It is not any fault of mine you are completely unable to support your claim.

 

[danieldemol]

Considering the ugly history of each religion? Do you really blame them?

Yes, since when do 2 wrongs make a right?

Of course it is wrong to persecute religious folk and I question the ability of your moral compass that this is not obvious to you

 

[Notanumber]

I think this chap is in line for first dibs (brother of Rev. Richard Coles?):

https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Cockney-Mike-Coles/dp/1841012173

When are they releasing the Quranic version I wonder.

 

[Mock Turtle]

When are they releasing the Quranic version I wonder.

Well that would be interesting, but might not get the same response as this flippant example done for fun and no doubt treated as such by the religious community in the UK.

 

[Notanumber]

Well that would be interesting, but might not get the same response as this flippant example done for fun and no doubt treated as such by the religious community in the UK.

This kind of thing is water off a ducks back for Christians. They are not easily offended.

 

[74x12]

Drama Queen much?
It is not any fault of mine you are completely unable to support your claim.

Well, I didn't think I needed to support something so obvious. An officially atheist, communist government is only interested in making a new Bible for one reason. That is to control the Christians in their country. Just look at their track record. They routinely bulldoze "house churches" that is any Christian group that starts a church outside of their officially sanctioned government controlled churches. So these new "Bibles" are just another blatant way of controlling or (in reality) subverting Christianity and keeping it under the government's oppressive control. Which is for many Christians to be considered idolatry. Because the government is being placed above God; if they can edit God's Word at will.

So it's a new excuse by the communists to confiscate Chinese Bibles and suppress any Christians not under their approved "Christianity lite version".

 

[Mock Turtle]

This kind of thing is water off a ducks back for Christians. They are not easily offended.

Quite, and I'm not sure I would want to live in any society where humour, no matter where directed, caused some to want to kill.

 

[Stevicus]

I agree with a good percent of your post.
Dont get complacent, tho. That is the West's
biggest weakness, you are cocky.

Yes, I've had discussions like this with other Westerners, although my observation is that the ones who come off as the most brazenly cocky are those who embrace capitalism.

 

[McBell]

Well, I didn't think I needed to support something so obvious.

What is "obvious" to one is not so "obvious" to another.

An officially atheist, communist government is only interested in making a new Bible for one reason. That is to control the Christians in their country. Just look at their track record. They routinely bulldoze "house churches" that is any Christian group that starts a church outside of their officially sanctioned government controlled churches. So these new "Bibles" are just another blatant way of controlling or (in reality) subverting Christianity and keeping it under the government's oppressive control. Which is for many Christians to be considered idolatry. Because the government is being placed above God; if they can edit God's Word at will.

So it's a new excuse by the communists to confiscate Chinese Bibles and suppress any Christians not under their approved "Christianity lite version".

Thank you for the explanation.

 

[Audie]

Communism is an evil on the world.

You didnt need to give another example of what I said.

 

[Audie]

There is more to communism than just having all things in common. The irony is the sickening things that communist states have done against Christians.

I'll excuse your post since clearly you don't know much about China's appalling history of persecution and inconceivable savagery against minority Christians and probably Muslims also; although admittedly I don't know as much about that part of the history.

Having observed your abject ignorance of science in
these pages and your eagerness to claim knowledge
you so obviously do not have, it is refreshing to see
you admit you dont know much, thin and watery as
the concession is.

"Appalling,... inconceivable savagery" "evil".
"Sickening".

I am disinclined to excuse your post
for mere ignirance when anti Chinese
bigotry runs so deep.

 

[Audie]

Well, I didn't think I needed to support something so obvious. An officially atheist, communist government is only interested in making a new Bible for one reason. That is to control the Christians in their country. Just look at their track record. They routinely bulldoze "house churches" that is any Christian group that starts a church outside of their officially sanctioned government controlled churches. So these new "Bibles" are just another blatant way of controlling or (in reality) subverting Christianity and keeping it under the government's oppressive control. Which is for many Christians to be considered idolatry. Because the government is being placed above God; if they can edit God's Word at will.

So it's a new excuse by the communists to confiscate Chinese Bibles and suppress any Christians not under their approved "Christianity lite version".

A profound, fundamental and total misunderstanding.

"Govrrnment placed above god" ? Edit god's word"?

"God"?

You actually think this "god" exists or is in any way
a consideration?

We note your omission of concern about "Allah's
Word". You revognize that "word" is phony as a three
dollsr bill. Now streeetch your mind a bit and
you just might get a glimmer of real insight
on a topic where you've been blathrring!

 

[74x12]

Having observed your abject ignorance of science in
these pages and your eagerness to claim knowledge
you so obviously do not have, it is refreshing to see
you admit you dont know much, thin and watery as
the concession is.

"Appalling,... inconceivable savagery" "evil".
"Sickening".

I am disinclined to excuse your post
for mere ignirance when anti Chinese
bigotry runs so deep.

How is it anti-Chinese bigotry when I am taking up for Chinese Christians? That doesn't make sense. There are already 40 million + Christians in China. It's a lot of people.

I hate communism not Chinese people.

A profound, fundamental and total misunderstanding.

"Govrrnment placed above god" ? Edit god's word"?

"God"?

You actually think this "god" exists or is in any way
a consideration?

We note your omission of concern about "Allah's
Word". You revognize that "word" is phony as a three
dollsr bill. Now streeetch your mind a bit and
you just might get a glimmer of real insight
on a topic where you've been blathrring!

In their minds(atheist communists) God is not a serious consideration. But perhaps you are wise enough to see things from someone else's point of view. That would be nice. It's called empathy.

From the Muslim perspective this would be intolerable to alter the Koran. You could apply the same reasoning to their plight as well.