outhouse
Atheistically
Its one side that refuses reality for what is known.
One side refuse academia on many levels. Its known as fanaticism and fundamentalism.
How can science and education agree with mythology that goes against facts?
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Chosen people
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Its one side that refuses reality for what is known.
One side refuse academia on many levels. Its known as fanaticism and fundamentalism.
How can science and education agree with mythology that goes against facts?
Pudding
Well-Known Member
I do not oppose your explanation, or have i done that unintentionally?
outhouse
Atheistically
When you stated, two sides cannot agree, I found a need to clarify the boundary of said disagreement.
soonerboomer001.
Member
The Jews are the chosen people of God. When Jesus was first sent to earth to offer himself as the needed sacrifice, he was to offer salvation to the Jews only. When they denied him and continued to seek the messiah, God then allowed the gentiles the opportunity at salvation. God was angry at the Jews because of their behavior, therefore he cursed the Israelites to be in conflict for all generations, there will never be peace in the land of the Jews.
SpeaksForTheTrees
Well-Known Member
Well if this is the case, i guess the most humane thing to do would be to eliminate this race from the planet, sooner rather than later.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
That for a first post? You really aren't here to make friends.
maybe he/she is here to make his/her opinion, not friends
it's not good that he generalize to all Jews .
Shadow of Liberty
Member
soonerboomer001.
Member
I guess my answer wasn't what you were looking for. I simply stated the truth and it's not the first time that's been an issue. If you want answers to stroke your ego or want the comfortable naivete you had, I suggest you contact a politician.
soonerboomer001.
Member
He didn't generalize all Jews, she did. God's chosen people are all of the Jews, not just some. The curse that was applied all those generations ago include all the Jews, just like the promise that they will always be victorious is for all Jews. If the answer doesn't ring true for you, get the bible and prove me wrong.
outhouse
Atheistically
This is just rhetoric by the unknown authors. Its meaningless.
soonerboomer001.
Member
Yes, God does love his followers and those who truly seek him, but the Jews have been the chosen people since the days of King David. A curse was put upon them when they denied Jesus, but with that curse came a promise that the land of Israel would always be victorious.
soonerboomer001.
Member
I don't know where you get your information but mine came straight from the bible. Therefore it's not meaningless rhetoric as you put it. I had hoped to find people who were acquainted with the bible, but I guess this forum isn't what I'm looking for.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Congratulations on being a Christian. Good for you.
rosends
Well-Known Member
actually, yours came straight from a text which you accept as divine and biblically authoritative. Imagine if you didn't -- how arrogant and insulting would your statement be? Can you put yourself outside of your faith for a moment and see just how ridiculous a claim that an entire people is irrevocably and eternally "cursed" because they didn't accept a certain person the way one book says they should, is?
Try making posts which are aware of their origin within a theological set of bounds and which will therefore be (at best) irrelevant to people outside those bounds.
soonerboomer001.
Member
No, I got my information from the bible. The Jews didn't deny Jesus because of his looks, they denied him because they thought he would bring the revolution and deliver them, they discovered he wasn't the Messiah they were looking for, therefore they turned their backs on him. Take a few moments to check things out before you make statements that are incorrect.
outhouse
Atheistically
That's has no credibility outside your own faith.
How would you even begin to know, who is and who is not acquainted with the bible ?
Try the same faith section, instead of the debate section where you wont have to substantiate any claims made.
outhouse
Atheistically
Well that is not historically reliable.
Maybe you did not know, but jesus was a jew.
He died a Roman death for starting trouble in the temple.
rosends
Well-Known Member
No, you got your information from a text you consider to be "the bible." I don't, and while you can dismiss me as being incorrect, I can do the same for you. Your conception of what is the bible and what is divine is wrong according to my understanding. Try to step away from what your text tells you and realize that many people see the world in a very different way. According to my learning, your text is not only non-authoritative, it is flat out inaccurate. Your idea of what Jews were looking for and what the events of the time are, are simply wrong, but I can grant you the right to make your statements as long as you know that they come from inside your own theological box.