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Chris Hayes message to those of us who want to stop Trump

Riders

Well-Known Member
I think this says it all.
MSNBC anchor Chris Hayes declared that “public opinion still matters” on Wednesday as he pointed to challenges that Donald Trump and Republicans could still face despite the president-elect’s election win.

“The most important thing, to those of us who are committed to stopping them, is to remember their success is not foreordained in any way,” Hayes said. “They’re going to try and there are going to be a lot of people who try to stop them. And the outcome of that is as yet undetermined.”

Hayes, who noted that Trump’s win showed voters’ “rejection of the status quo,” said Trump and Republicans are interested in interpreting the win as a “mandate for all of their worst governing impulses, all the Stephen Miller-style Project 2025 dark fantasies of smashing the administrative state.”

“But those ideas were never popular,” said Hayes, who added that Trump tried to “distancehimself every chance he had” from the conservative policy blueprint.

The MSNBC anchor later turned to Trump’s first term where the president-elect tried to “do lots of bad things and failed to do them.”

“Because he is completely distractible and in constant because he’s a vortex of chaos because he can not be stopped from doing stupid, self-destructive things all the time,” Hayes said.

“None of that changed because he won the election. They’re all the same people, he’s the same guy. Are Republicans better prepared this time? Are they more loyal? Is the judiciary more in their favor? Yes, yes and yes. But does that mean the outcome is foreordained? No.”

Hayes then cited Democrats’ “full rejection” of the Trump’s “monstrous” family separation policy at the border during his first term.

Trump would eventually sign an executive order to stop the practice in 2018 and, as the MSNBC anchor noted, later tried to take credit for getting rid of the “heinous policy” he implemented.

“But in the end, they had to abandon it because it was so unpopular,” Hayes said.

“That’s just one example. There will likely be things he doesn’t abandon but in the face of that, it really is important not to concede in advance that politics don’t matter. They do, public opinion still matters.”
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
“That’s just one example. There will likely be things he doesn’t abandon but in the face of that, it really is important not to concede in advance that politics don’t matter. They do, public opinion still matters.”

I know of no one who "concede in advance that politics don’t matter."

In fact, I'm not even sure what that's suppose to mean. I am, however, sure that neofascism has been qualitatively emboldened. That doesn't mean that those opposed to Trump should simply acquiesce, but it does mean that the pain and disruption - both here and internationally - are likely to be severe irrespective of what we do.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
I think this says it all.
MSNBC anchor Chris Hayes declared that “public opinion still matters” on Wednesday as he pointed to challenges that Donald Trump and Republicans could still face despite the president-elect’s election win.

“The most important thing, to those of us who are committed to stopping them, is to remember their success is not foreordained in any way,” Hayes said. “They’re going to try and there are going to be a lot of people who try to stop them. And the outcome of that is as yet undetermined.”

Hayes, who noted that Trump’s win showed voters’ “rejection of the status quo,” said Trump and Republicans are interested in interpreting the win as a “mandate for all of their worst governing impulses, all the Stephen Miller-style Project 2025 dark fantasies of smashing the administrative state.”

“But those ideas were never popular,” said Hayes, who added that Trump tried to “distancehimself every chance he had” from the conservative policy blueprint.

The MSNBC anchor later turned to Trump’s first term where the president-elect tried to “do lots of bad things and failed to do them.”

“Because he is completely distractible and in constant because he’s a vortex of chaos because he can not be stopped from doing stupid, self-destructive things all the time,” Hayes said.

“None of that changed because he won the election. They’re all the same people, he’s the same guy. Are Republicans better prepared this time? Are they more loyal? Is the judiciary more in their favor? Yes, yes and yes. But does that mean the outcome is foreordained? No.”

Hayes then cited Democrats’ “full rejection” of the Trump’s “monstrous” family separation policy at the border during his first term.

Trump would eventually sign an executive order to stop the practice in 2018 and, as the MSNBC anchor noted, later tried to take credit for getting rid of the “heinous policy” he implemented.

“But in the end, they had to abandon it because it was so unpopular,” Hayes said.

“That’s just one example. There will likely be things he doesn’t abandon but in the face of that, it really is important not to concede in advance that politics don’t matter. They do, public opinion still matters.”
The problem is Chris Hayes lies for the Democrats. All of a sudden he found truth? The con artists did not learn anything.

What I would do about the border and all the illegal immigrants, that the DNC let in, it ship them all to Democrat run states. Whomever show faux concern, we ship them there. This way they are still in the US and the DNC can stop whining. Then you take away federal funding, and allow these states to foot the entire bill for the disaster their leaders created.

I would also dump plenty of illegal immigrants, at all the mansions of the Democrats elite, and make it illegal to forcefully move these migrants from their new homes. I would then allow all border states to sue the DNC for all the resources that they were forced to waste due to bad DNC policy, that they did not want or vote for. Now the DNC will get what they want and others will get what they want.

When Texas began to ship immigrants to Democrat run sanctuary cities, this is when the crap hit the fan, and blue states started to shift to the red, since the problem hit home and the propaganda machine was not able to cover it up. How many Democrats would be willing to pay more taxes, to offset the new costs they will face, due to their leadership having to own their problem and then passing the buck to them?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The problem is Chris Hayes lies for the Democrats. All of a sudden he found truth? The con artists did not learn anything.

What I would do about the border and all the illegal immigrants, that the DNC let in, it ship them all to Democrat run states. Whomever show faux concern, we ship them there. This way they are still in the US and the DNC can stop whining. Then you take away federal funding, and allow these states to foot the entire bill for the disaster their leaders created.

I would also dump plenty of illegal immigrants, at all the mansions of the Democrats elite, and make it illegal to forcefully move these migrants from their new homes. I would then allow all border states to sue the DNC for all the resources that they were forced to waste due to bad DNC policy, that they did not want or vote for. Now the DNC will get what they want and others will get what they want.

When Texas began to ship immigrants to Democrat run sanctuary cities, this is when the crap hit the fan, and blue states started to shift to the red, since the problem hit home and the propaganda machine was not able to cover it up. How many Democrats would be willing to pay more taxes, to offset the new costs they will face, due to their leadership having to own their problem and then passing the buck to them?
Sometimes you just have to throw their own words and boasts back into their faces in real time before it sinks through the layers of their thick vapid heads of the actual truth of the matter.
 
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