Christendom

[viole]

..just one word .. Napolean.

Who is that? Sounds like an Italian Spaghetti sauce.

Ciao

- voile

 

[Estro Felino]

There are many who call themselves Christians but practice hate not love. There are many who call themselves Christians who ignore the 2nd Greatest Commandment.

If you agree that true Christians are motivated by love including love for all including the poor, LGBTQ and others who some think of as the "least of these", then we have a basis for agreement.

Yes, I do agree.

 

[Clara Tea]

Here it is light years away from that.
The Mormon Church few blocks away from the Catholic shrine.
They respect each other.

Do they respect each other enough to attend each other's churches?

Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. said that it is easy to be good in good times, but hard to be good in bad times. When scrapping for the same scrap of food, will they still be amicable?

 

[loverofhumanity]

I did want to start a thread in this section to make you understand that there is not much to debate within Christendom.

All Christians are just One thing. They just love Jesus our Lord.


So there is nothing divisive within Christendom.
Just Love. And faith in Jesus Christ

I have the pleasure of having some wonderful Christian friends. They love us unconditionally. When they lived in my city they visited daily and we had meals with them often. And I love the word Christendom.

I mix with Christians of different denominations and they all have that same spirit. It would be great if you could all bury your theological differences and just be one religion. That would make Christianity less confusing.

 

[Clara Tea]

Who is that? Sounds like an Italian Spaghetti sauce.

Ciao

- voile

I thought that Napoleon was a type of ice cream (chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry). On the other hand, I thought that Rocky Marciano was a type of ice cream (chocolate with marshmallows)...No wonder he hit me when I ordered one. I shouldn't type when I'm hungry.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I thought that Napoleon was a type of ice cream..

That's Neapolitan..

..and of course, no answer to the implied "Christians/Muslims kill" philosophy.

 

[Estro Felino]

Do they respect each other enough to attend each other's churches?

Yes. I have heard of interreligious meetings.

 

[Estro Felino]

You'll allow that there is room for difference of opinion I hope. I hope that is implied in your OP.

Yes. Debate is always welcome.

 

[Muffled]

I did want to start a thread in this section to make you understand that there is not much to debate within Christendom.

All Christians are just One thing. They just love Jesus our Lord.


So there is nothing divisive within Christendom.
Just Love. And faith in Jesus Christ

I believe I wish that were true but some who call themselves Christian just pay him lip service.

 

[Estro Felino]

In their defense, they love everyone except who they hate, and they hate everyone.

The Virgin Mary is portrayed by us Catholics as a beautiful woman who crushes the head of a snake, killing him.
That snake is Satan.
So yes, I do hate Satan.
And all his disgusting and squalid kingdom.
Mary does too.

 

[Muffled]

Except of course - over 200 versions of the bible in English alone, who knows how many in other languages and the close on 50,000 different branches of Christianity who each interpret their preferred version on the bible in the way that suites them.

Which has led to division, conflict and war. I personally believe faith in christ is the most divisive religion there is

I believe that is the trick of the devil. It doesn't happen with real Christians.

I had a falling out with the elders of my previous church but in the end we were still one in the bonds of love even if we couldn't reach agreement.

 

[Muffled]

Well, what about Adoptionists? Many of them don't view Jesus as the Christ or a lord.

And there's also the Gnostic Christians, who explicitly deny faith in preference of direct mystical experience. Many of them are Adoptionists, too.

The definition of Christianity you're using is one that was developed by the early Church to persecute heretics. I don't think you get more divisive than that.

I believe every different belief divides no matter what religion it is.

 

[Muffled]

The term Christ means Messiah.
So a Christian is the one who believes Jesus is the Messiah.

I believe the term has been extended to all who believe primarily in Jesus. I am not Jewish so I don't need a messiah.

 

[ChristineM]

I believe that is the trick of the devil. It doesn't happen with real Christians.

I had a falling out with the elders of my previous church but in the end we were still one in the bonds of love even if we couldn't reach agreement.

You are welcome to your opinion, nevertheless there are close to 50,000 sects of christianity, who, being real christians are all to happy with conflict with other sects of christianity. It even happens on these pages.

 

[sun rise]

Yes, I do agree.

It's interesting that you identify with heresy.

Pelagianism was opposed by St. Augustine, bishop of Hippo, who asserted that human beings cannot attain righteousness by their own efforts and are totally dependent upon the grace of God. Condemned by two councils of African bishops in 416 and again at Carthage in 418, Pelagius and Celestius were finally excommunicated in 418; Pelagius’s later fate is unknown.

 

[sun rise]

I suspect that part of the issue is the difference between those who might be called "Christian in name only" and the very few who truly live a life of love.

@Estro Felino does the argument no favor by ignoring history and the crimes committed in the name of religion (Northern Ireland for one case).

The Bible itself draws the distinction (for any who care what the Bible says):

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

 

[Kooky]

I did want to start a thread in this section to make you understand that there is not much to debate within Christendom.

All Christians are just One thing. They just love Jesus our Lord.


So there is nothing divisive within Christendom.
Just Love. And faith in Jesus Christ

Yup, no disagreements at all.

 

[Estro Felino]

I suspect that part of the issue is the difference between those who might be called "Christian in name only" and the very few who truly live a life of love.

@Estro Felino does the argument no favor by ignoring history and the crimes committed in the name of religion (Northern Ireland for one case).

The Bible itself draws the distinction (for any who care what the Bible says):

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

For example...that beautiful passage refers to those bankers who call themselves good Catholics...and define themselves Catholics.

But actually behind the scenes, they bribed politicians, destroying enterprises, destroying economies, gaining billions of dollars thanks to this.

I am a Pelagian.
My God is not a merciful God to those who got richer at cost of the neighbor's poverty.

To destroy people's life is the lawlessness my God speaks of.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I did want to start a thread in this section to make you understand that there is not much to debate within Christendom.

All Christians are just One thing. They just love Jesus our Lord.


So there is nothing divisive within Christendom.
Just Love. And faith in Jesus Christ

Since when do Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Messianic Judaism, Anglicans, Episcopal, Lutheran, Mennonites, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists, Assemblies of God, Apostolic Church, Pentecostals, Church of Christ, Church of God, Church of the Nazarene, United Methodist, Presbyterians, Quakers, First Baptists, Anabaptists, Primitive Baptists, Second Baptists, Southern Baptists, Reformed Baptists, Freewill Baptists (and the literally thousands of other Protestant and non-Protestant churches I didn't even list) fully agree on biblical interpretation, the exact same church doctrines, whether someone has to be fully immersed in water or can simply be sprinkled with water in order to be properly baptized, and when was the longstanding derisive theological debate between Calvinism vs. Arminianism finally settled? Do you think that all the thousands of churches within Christendom agree on whether salvation in Jesus Christ is unconditional or not?

 

[Estro Felino]

Since when do Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Messianic Judaism, Anglicans, Episcopal, Lutheran, Mennonites, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists, Assemblies of God, Apostolic Church, Pentecostals, Church of Christ, Church of God, Church of the Nazarene, United Methodist, Presbyterians, Quakers, First Baptists, Anabaptists, Primitive Baptists, Second Baptists, Southern Baptists, Reformed Baptists, Freewill Baptists (and the literally thousands of other Protestant and non-Protestant churches I didn't even list) fully agree on biblical interpretation, the exact same church doctrines, whether someone has to be fully immersed in water or can simply be sprinkled with water in order to be properly baptized, and when was the longstanding derisive theological debate between Calvinism vs. Arminianism finally settled? Do you think that all the thousands of churches within Christendom agree on whether salvation in Jesus Christ is unconditional or not?

All of the above agree that Jesus is Love.
And I can promise you the things that they agree on are countless.
So countless that all the rest is irrelevant.