• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Christian Lingo

Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
When you hear a Christian say I will see my loved ones in again in heaven, what do you think they mean? I think it’s quite obvious don’t you?
 
I Am Hugh

I Am Hugh

Researcher
I understand what is meant by the colloquialism, but I don't agree that it is supported by scripture as it is intended. God created heaven for spirit beings and earth for earthling man. The meek shall inherit, what? Not heaven. It seems to me that the expression isn't in line with Jehovah God's will, and it doesn't make sense to me.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I Am Hugh said:
I understand what is meant by the colloquialism, but I don't agree that it is supported by scripture as it is intended. God created heaven for spirit beings and earth for earthling man. The meek shall inherit, what? Not heaven. It seems to me that the expression isn't in line with Jehovah God's will, and it doesn't make sense to me.
Click to expand...
Yup. Myself, after leaving the Church and looking at the Bible closer the who "beam me up Goddy" almost seems blasphemous. That's not in the Bible. There is a day when the dead shall be resurrected and judged. Christians of older times even sometimes prepared for this by being buried with loved ones so they'd see each other first when they are all alive again.
At most the Saints get to go to Heaven, but not us. We get Earth at most.
 
I Am Hugh

I Am Hugh

Researcher
Shadow Wolf said:
Yup. Myself, after leaving the Church and looking at the Bible closer the who "beam me up Goddy" almost seems blasphemous. That's not in the Bible. There is a day when the dead shall be resurrected and judged. Christians of older times even sometimes prepared for this by being buried with loved ones so they'd see each other first when they are all alive again.
At most the Saints get to go to Heaven, but not us. We get Earth at most.
Click to expand...

The Bible is like most things, it is viewed as mythology. A collection of stories - as Paul said, Greek mythos; Latin fabulus. Myth, fable (2 Timothy 4:4) Most people tend to think it is an analogy for good vs. evil. I think of it more like Wikipedia. I try not to consciously memorize scripture and when I have a question, I look it up. That prevents me from making it into something it isn't.

Adam and Eve were created perfect. Most people think that means as good as can possibly be, but that is exactly wrong. It actually means having great potential to be as "good" as can possibly be. That was their goal, not their created state. Like a newborn baby in the eyes of the parents. How they sinned is they decided for themselves what was "good" and "bad" (subjective terms) before they had matured to the point where they could do that themselves. Like the spirit beings had already done. (Genesis 3:22) That is what God's Day of rest is. The period of time in which they will have matured in that way. (Genesis 2:3; John 5:16-17; Hebrews 3:10-11) In a sense thinking that we go to heaven when we die isn't logical because why would we be here? But also, it supersedes or supplants God's original purpose for us.

The Earth is the most. It was created for us.
 
Last edited:
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I Am Hugh said:
I understand what is meant by the colloquialism, but I don't agree that it is supported by scripture as it is intended. God created heaven for spirit beings and earth for earthling man. The meek shall inherit, what? Not heaven. It seems to me that the expression isn't in line with Jehovah God's will, and it doesn't make sense to me.
Click to expand...
You don’t see anything deeper?
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Shadow Wolf said:
Yup. Myself, after leaving the Church and looking at the Bible closer the who "beam me up Goddy" almost seems blasphemous. That's not in the Bible. There is a day when the dead shall be resurrected and judged. Christians of older times even sometimes prepared for this by being buried with loved ones so they'd see each other first when they are all alive again.
At most the Saints get to go to Heaven, but not us. We get Earth at most.
Click to expand...
Resurrected? What do you think this means?
 
I Am Hugh

I Am Hugh

Researcher
King Phenomenon said:
You don’t see anything deeper?
Click to expand...
Deeper? I'm afraid not, other than explained to @Shadow Wolf. Perhaps you could give me your own understanding and I will see that. Arguably I see there being a possible interpretation that the kingdom of heaven, God's kingdom, will, eventually include both heaven and earth. So, the word heaven means high. Raise your hand above your head and you are reaching into the physical heavens. Above that, the spiritual heavens.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I Am Hugh said:
Deeper? I'm afraid not, other than explained to @Shadow Wolf. Perhaps you could give me your own understanding and I will see that. Arguably I see there being a possible interpretation that the kingdom of heaven, God's kingdom, will, eventually include both heaven and earth. So, the word heaven means high. Raise your hand above your head and you are reaching into the physical heavens. Above that, the spiritual heavens.
Click to expand...
Read my profile post.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
King Phenomenon said:
When you hear a Christian say I will see my loved ones in again in heaven, what do you think they mean? I think it’s quite obvious don’t you?
Click to expand...

I think they believe what they say but they have no idea how the universe works
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Kathryn said:
Do you believe that any of us really know how the universe works? Because I sure don't.
Click to expand...
I know. It’s quite simple actually. It’s just infinite space filled with stars and planets etc. and it will end when God in the flesh dies.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top