Christian: Messages from God

[Sanguine]

Okay - kinda looking for debate here, but also a bit of advice into the bargain

My boyfriend and I haven't been together long, and he's the one who brought me back to church and it's there where I've rekindled my belief. The problem is now, that he's been getting messages from God, a sort of gently nagging feeling, that a relationship isn't what he needs right now, that he isn't serving God's purpose by being with me.
We tried a split, and despite me being fine, he took it badly, and so asked me to have him back. I tried to pursuade him that it isn't the right course for him at this point, but in the end, gave in. He cried, and I love him.
Now, however, we both still feel we're doing the wrong thing and things are uncomfortable and strained between us.
What I'd like to know is whether messages should be taken as be all and end all, or whether they can be open to interpretation, and also what your opinion is on what we should do.

 

[Lindsey-Loo]

Ummm...that doesn't sound like a message from God to me. It sounds like he had a nagging feeling that you two weren't right for each other. If you BOTH feel like your doing the wrong thing, then why stay together? I mean, I'm not very old, and totally not qualified to give this kind of advice, but I don't see why two people would stay together if both of them feel that they aren't meant to be.

 

[Arrow]

It is funny that you bring this up because i went through the exact same thing. Except for that it is my girlfriend that was the one doing the thing that God was telling her that we were not supposed to be together. I kind of have to go, but i will give my opinion later on if you want. In the mean time, God bless.

 

[Snowbear]

There are a couple of things you and he can do to help discern if the 'messages' are from God or from within yourselves.

- Pray about it. But do it with a heart for listening to the actual answer, not just hoping He will answer what you want to hear.

- Is what your friend thinking is a message from God completely consistent with what's in the Bible? If so, there's a big clue. In your prayers (whether you do this together or seperately), ask the Holy Spirit to lead your studies of the Word about this question.

 

[Super Universe]

Okay - kinda looking for debate here, but also a bit of advice into the bargain

My boyfriend and I haven't been together long, and he's the one who brought me back to church and it's there where I've rekindled my belief. The problem is now, that he's been getting messages from God, a sort of gently nagging feeling, that a relationship isn't what he needs right now, that he isn't serving God's purpose by being with me.
We tried a split, and despite me being fine, he took it badly, and so asked me to have him back. I tried to pursuade him that it isn't the right course for him at this point, but in the end, gave in. He cried, and I love him.
Now, however, we both still feel we're doing the wrong thing and things are uncomfortable and strained between us.
What I'd like to know is whether messages should be taken as be all and end all, or whether they can be open to interpretation, and also what your opinion is on what we should do.

Why does your boyfriend believe the messages are from God? Just because he hears them in his head or are they great new prophetic revelations?

We all get messages from our conscience to differing degrees. Probably the most common is the imaginary devil on one shoulder and the angel on the other when you are trying to make a difficult decision. These messages never make any decision for you, they just give you the view from both sides.

Some people have a heightened sense that opens them up to channeling spirits whether they desire it or not. One should always be alert for any being who makes grand claims as the spirits know we tend to always trust things supernatural.

Selfish spirits feed off of your fear and worship of them. Don't be their toy, always maintain control and question anything that comes in.

We are all here to do something but God does not make that choice for us, we do. I am here to do what I choose to do. You fulfill your own purpose, it is not set in stone for you. If that was the goal God could have a machine do it with more efficiency.

One other thing, you were fine when you two split but then you say you love him? You did not have a lump in your stomach for weeks after you two separated?

You might ask a trusted friend what their idea of your relationship is and then determine if it's what you want forever or are there things that you would like to change about it.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Paul had a pretty ambivalent attitude towards marriage in 1 Corinthians 7. Basically, he says that the choice is up to us: if we choose to marry (which is the reason to stay together - the object of courtship/dating), we do good, if we choose to split up we do good.

All this message in a bottle from God is horse poo-poo and excuses to do what we want.

EDIT: You mostly likely don't want to remain in a relationship with a guy who thinks that God "told" him not to be with you. An excellent test to see if he's serious is to take him (the kid) seriously. Don't touch him for a few days and pretend like you've never dated, but don't do anything rash to hurt him like flirting with other guys in frount of him... just lay low for a week or more to see if the guy really is serious.

If so, you're MUCH better off without the guy wondering if he "should" be with you - let someone else go through that crap.

EDIT #2: Jeez... this is fantastic stuff. Should I start a "Dear Angellous" thread?

I could be the next Dr. Phil.

 

[Baerly]

Sanguine, How are you? It is a good thing to ask question and check things out.That is what the bible tells us to do (John 5:39) (Acts 17:11). The question is does the bible tell us that revelations are for today? If we learn that ,it will help you alot in the choices you need to make. We learn in (2Peter 1:3) that God gave us all we need pertaining to life and godliness. We learn in (Jude 3) that it was ONCE DELIVERED. the bible says it was once delivered because if you have all you need of something there is no more to be had. The bible (message of God) was once delivered and we have all we need according to God. This means there will be no more revelations. It is finished,we have all the message that God wants us to have within the bible. Besides that, the only way that the gifts of the Holy Spirit could be passed on to other people was if an apostle laid hands upon another person (Acts 6:6 ; 8:18). All the apostles died within the first century. According to the bible the Gifts - prophecies, miracles, tongues,etc. all stopped in the first century or soon after. I hope this helps. Let me know if I can help beyond this. Baerly

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Okay - kinda looking for debate here, but also a bit of advice into the bargain

My boyfriend and I haven't been together long, and he's the one who brought me back to church and it's there where I've rekindled my belief. The problem is now, that he's been getting messages from God, a sort of gently nagging feeling, that a relationship isn't what he needs right now, that he isn't serving God's purpose by being with me.
We tried a split, and despite me being fine, he took it badly, and so asked me to have him back. I tried to pursuade him that it isn't the right course for him at this point, but in the end, gave in. He cried, and I love him.
Now, however, we both still feel we're doing the wrong thing and things are uncomfortable and strained between us.
What I'd like to know is whether messages should be taken as be all and end all, or whether they can be open to interpretation, and also what your opinion is on what we should do.

Dear Abby, Dear Abby, well I never thought me and my boyfriend would ever get caught....ooops wrong song. "You need to know when to hold him, know when to fold him and know when to walk away and know when to run....yeah that's the one.

The "messages" should line up with scripture. Either that or it's time for some new medication.

Marriage and/or relationships are hard enough without this kind of convoluted nonsense. My "message," RUN!!!! Run far!!! Run fast!!!

 

[Baerly]

One other thing is that if anyone teaches or preaches anything contrary to what is found within the bible they are to be accursed (or cut off) from God according to (Gal.1:6-9). This is one way to test if what someone is teaching or preaching is actually the word of God (1John 4:1-6).

6-10. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you. Paul abruptly springs into the midst of his subject. With the fickleness of their race, they had so soon swerved from "him that called" them. The analogy of Paul's language (compare 1:15; 1 Cor. 1:9; Rom. 8:30) would show that he refers to God. The call was a divine one. Paul was only the instrument that God used. Into the grace of Christ. The gospel privileges. Called into these, they had "removed" unto another gospel, one of a different kind, not worthy of the name. 7. Which is not another. Is not a gospel at all, but only a perversion of the only gospel of Christ, due to false teachers. 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, etc. He supposes an impossibility in order to make his statement emphatic. These false teachers said, "Our gospel is of Peter, or of James." Paul replies, "Even though they, or we, or even an angel, preach another gospel, let him be accursed." He who corrupts divine truth is an enemy of God, and is under the curse. Accursed. Anathema; given over to the judgments of God. See 1 Cor. 16:22. 9. As we said before. This refers, it is generally supposed, to Paul's last visit to Galatia, mentioned in Acts 18:23, at which time he had warned the brethren against the Judaizers. The strong language shows how great a sin it is to pervert the gospel or Bible truth. This info comes from Peoples New testament by B.W.Johnson / or Johnsons Notes on the New Testament

in love Baerly

 

[sandy whitelinger]

God's phone number, Jeremiah 33:3, give him a ring.

 

[Baerly]

God's phone number, Jeremiah 33:3, give him a ring.

Hi, I must admit I am very curious as to what your user name means. Is it possible that we could discuss this further somehow? Baerly

 

[!Fluffy!]

Sanguine: You need to kick this one to the curb baby. Immediamento.

G_d has blessed us with natural flight/fight instincts we have learned to ignore; but for sure some alarms were raised upon reading your post, just reread some of the replies. I think all of us have the same awful feeling about this relationship. Consider yourself forewarned, I have a feeling this guy is going to be persistent now that he feels like he has something to prove. In other words, your desireability will increase the more resistance he encounters so you may have to be very direct and close the door.

And to Super Universe - hey, frubals to you for these excellent nugget of advice:
"Some people have a heightened sense that opens them up to channeling spirits whether they desire it or not. One should always be alert for any being who makes grand claims as the spirits know we tend to always trust things supernatural.

Selfish spirits feed off of your fear and worship of them. Don't be their toy, always maintain control and question anything that comes in."

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

It would be very strange for God to intervene in this way.
There is no evidence he has ever done so.
God doesn't play games,
If he brings two people together, he doesn't then play whispering games to confuse them.
I think your friend is confusing his own doubts with having a message.
This is dangerous... does he have this tendency over other issues.
It needs nipping in the bud, he probably needs help.

For your part a change of scene would be a very good idea.