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Christian, muslim if you believe in reincarnation?
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Although there is no belief in "reincarnation" in the message of the Gospel other than being born-again once, it seems to me (IMV) that there is a grace of God that once you have believed in Jesus, there is enough grace from God to be a Christian as He, by His Holy Spirit, begins to separate truth from religion. (This isn't a dig against Hinduism but rather just the viewpoint of a Christ follower)
PS (Edited)
Ultimately God is the judge of the heart.
In my opinion: a heretical Christian, yes. A right-believing one, no. But that's my take on it.
Unveiled Artist
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No. Christianity is about an end goal not a state of being. Future vs present.
No.
Reincarnation is not in the Bible.
Reincarnation is not in the Bible.
May I add to my answer...
The one-time born-again experience actually achieves the ultimate goal of multiple re-incarnations.
Yes, certainly. Origen was an early church father and he did. Flesh and Fire: Reincarnation and Universal Salvation in the Early Church
I was thinking to myself to address that same point. I consider being born again to be the same thing as Enlightenment. With Enlightenment, you don't need to keep coming back for subsequent reincarnations until you Awaken.
But Enlightenment is not just saying "I believe". It an actual Realization of the Oneness of Divinity with all that is, and you are not separate from that. So when Jesus says, unless you are born again, you will not see the kingdom of God, that is correct. Unless you are Enlightened, you are not seeing 'face to face', and 'knowing even as I am known".
I think calling oneself born again, when they have not had an Awakening of "Christ consciousness", or Buddha mind, or Nirvana, or God, in which reality shifts radically, is probably trivializing the magnitude of what that means. It's like claiming yourself as an Enlightened master, when you've only read a few books on the subject and decided that's for you. That's just choosing to follow the path to Awakening, not actually Awakening itself.
Reincarnation is not an article of Christian faith. You cannot believe in reincarnation and claim a commitment to Christian orthodoxy. As for me personally, I have in the past speculated about its possibility; so while I do not affirm the doctrine but I do not completely deny that it could be real either. I'm not betting on being able to come back but if when I die I find out that reincarnation does in fact exist then I'm not going to be too surprised.
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe I am a Christian who believes in reincarnation the way the Bible views it.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe a person can't enter the womb of his mother a second time in the same lifetime but I do believe the Bible supports the reentry of a spirit into a new body.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that is simply because those who set themselves up as the authorities in the church say so not because it is true.
Psalm23
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I think it is possible to be a Christian and believe in reincarnation. However, reincarnation is not a view supported by the Bible.
I believe St. Paul and St. John Chrysostom, "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except by God, and those that exist are put in place by God. So then, the one who resists authority resists the ordinance which is from God, and those who resist will receive condemnation on themselves."
And St. John Chrysostom says: "that there should be rulers, and some rule and others be ruled, and that all things should not just be carried on in one confusion, the people swaying like waves in this direction and that; this, I say, is the work of God's wisdom... God made marriage, and not that it is He that joins together every man that comes to be with a woman... since equality of honor does many times lead to fightings, He has made many governments and forms of subjection; as that, for instance, of man and wife, that of son and father, that of old men and young, that of bond and free, that of ruler and ruled, that of master and disciple. And why are you surprised in the case of mankind, when even in the body He has done the same thing? For even here He has not made all parts of equal honor, but He has made one less and another greater, and some of the limbs has He made to rule and some to be ruled. And among the unreasoning creatures one may notice this same principle, as among bees, among cranes, among herds of wild cattle. And even the sea itself is not without this goodly subordination; for there too many of the clans are ranged under one among the fishes, and are led thus as an army, and make long expeditions from home. For anarchy, be where it may, is an evil, and a cause of confusion."
And I'll even had St. Ignatius Theophorus: "See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
Blessed be the Lord of Powers.