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christianity AND sim theory?

Eddi

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
Can you call yourself a Christian whilst believing that Simulation Theory may be true? I think that you can, that it just adds an additional layer to Christianity.

But I’m interested in what others think! For the past few years I have alternated between the two, but perhaps they are mutually compatible?

And I'm not talking about being a Christian whilst also believing in Simulation Theory:

I'm talking about being a Christian who is open to the possibility that it may well be true but who lives as though Christianity is their path, whilst entertaining Sim Theory as a possible option - which pretty much describes my current situation

I believe in God, the Supreme Being

I believe in Jesus and he is my Lord and Saviour

But I also suspect that this reality may be a computer simulation

But I live my life as a Christian, as best I can!
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Eddi said:
Yes, I have

I believe it is the notion that what we take as reality is an illusion - not all it seems, that reality is is artificial?
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Basically.

That seems more like what is true, IMO. See we have 5-6 senses and can only perceive the world through that. And due to time delays in sensing and processing in the brain. We never "truly" experience reality. That everything we know is "Illusion", a shadow of what once was and what could be.
 
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Lain

Well-Known Member
Eddi said:
Can you call yourself a Christian whilst believing that Simulation Theory may be true? I think that you can, that it just adds an additional layer to Christianity.

But I’m interested in what others think! For the past few years I have alternated between the two, but perhaps they are mutually compatible?

And I'm not talking about being a Christian whilst also believing in Simulation Theory:

I'm talking about being a Christian who is open to the possibility that it may well be true but who lives as though Christianity is their path, whilst entertaining Sim Theory as a possible option - which pretty much describes my current situation

I believe in God, the Supreme Being

I believe in Jesus and he is my Lord and Saviour

But I also suspect that this reality may be a computer simulation

But I live my life as a Christian, as best I can!
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Wouldn't this mean the world was in some way not real? It definitely would go against the phronema and I do not see how that would work with the Incarnation.
 
Suave

Suave

Simulated character
Eddi said:
Can you call yourself a Christian whilst believing that Simulation Theory may be true? I think that you can, that it just adds an additional layer to Christianity.

But I’m interested in what others think! For the past few years I have alternated between the two, but perhaps they are mutually compatible?

And I'm not talking about being a Christian whilst also believing in Simulation Theory:

I'm talking about being a Christian who is open to the possibility that it may well be true but who lives as though Christianity is their path, whilst entertaining Sim Theory as a possible option - which pretty much describes my current situation

I believe in God, the Supreme Being

I believe in Jesus and he is my Lord and Saviour

But I also suspect that this reality may be a computer simulation

But I live my life as a Christian, as best I can!
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If a post-human technological advanced civilization with powerful computers can exist, then we almost certainly are living within a simulated universe.

Within a simulation, characters can be resurrected. Hence, our Lord, the resurrected Christ is possible. All things are possible!
 
Eddi

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
Lain said:
Wouldn't this mean the world was in some way not real? It definitely would go against the phronema and I do not see how that would work with the Incarnation.
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But if we look at genesis, that could be about the programmers creating the world

If you look at Genesis, chapter 1

We know that according to science the world did not come into being like that

But if it came into being by being created by programmers or advanced Artificial Intelligence the Genesis account could be true, it could have happened in that order, how it says it happened in Genesis
 
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Lain

Well-Known Member
Eddi said:
But if we look at genesis, that could be about the programmers creating the world

If you look at Genesis, chapter 1

We know that according to science the world did not come into being like that

But if it came into being by being created by programmers or advanced Artificial Intelligence the Genesis account could be true, it could have happened in that order, how it says it happened in Genesis
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If that's possible I don't see why God couldn't have just done that in that order. The result would be the exact same: it appears like it is not, but it was.
 
Eddi

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
Suave said:
If a post-human technological advanced civilization with powerful computers can exist, then we almost certainly are living within a simulated universe.

Within a simulation, characters can be resurrected. Hence, our Lord, the resurrected Christ is possible. All things are possible!
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Yes, but I think this undermines notions of Christ being divine etc.

Therefore I think it undermines any Christian foundation one may have

But yes, if this reality is a simulation then pretty much anything is possible

However, I believe in Christianity more than I do Sim Theory
 
Suave

Suave

Simulated character
Eddi said:
But if we look at genesis, that could be about the programmers creating the world

If you look at Genesis, chapter 1

We know that according to science the world did not come into being like that

But if it came into being by being created by programmers or advanced Artificial Intelligence the Genesis account could be true, it could have happened in that order, how it says it happened in Genesis
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This mark of intelligence left in our genetic coding might be indicative of an intelligent designer, who may be responsible for the simulation of our reality. Our genetic code's creator has left this mathematical pattern in our genetic code conveying to me the symbol of an Egyptian triangle as well as the number 37 embedded in our genetic code.
Eight of the canonical amino acids can be sufficiently defined by the composition of their codon's first and second base nucleotides. The nucleon sum of these amino acids' side chains is 333 (=37 * 3 squared), the sun of their block nucleons (basic core structure) is 592 (=37 * 4 squared), and the sum of their total nucleons is 925 (=37 * 5 squared ). With 37 factored out, this results in 3 squared + 4 squared = 5 squared, which is representative of an Egyptian triangle.


The significance of 37 being used as key factor for the mathematic depiction of the Egyptian triangle appearing in genetic coding might be linked to the gematria significance of 37 in Hebrew written in Genesis 1:1.

The 3 main words (God, the heaven, the earth) in Hebrew have a gematria numeric value of 777 (111x7), ". which is divisible by 37.
The numeric value of the entire verse is 2701 which is divisible by 37.
We may now proceed to finding the number 37 interlaced in the first verse of the Bible. We can do this by discovering words or groups of words with number values evenly divisible by 37, e.g. the 3 main words (“God” + ”the heaven” + ”the earth” = 777 = 21x37), the 5 first words (“In the beginning” + “created” + “God” + “*” + “the heaven” = 1998 = 54x37), or the last two words separately (“and” = 407 = 11x37 and “the earth” = 296 = 8x37)

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Eddi

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
The Hammer said:
Nothing in scripture points to this notion. Although I think Zoroastrianism might mention something about "preprogrammed" believers rising from the dead. Maybe check Zoroastrianism?
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I think Genesis Chapter 1 does :D
 
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