Christianity is a religion of solar worship

[1137]

The other thread was a bust and it seems that this idea is not as well understood as I thought. So, I decided to bring up the main points and leave them open to debate. Of course, being an in depth thread without a heavy anti-whatever-group bias it'll probably do pretty poorly

The Trinity
The three aspects of the holy trinity correlate with the three positions of the sun - dawn, noon, and dusk. God the father is the dawning sun. A symbol of creation, birth, and rebirth, God the Father is the creator deity who first made, and now rules, over the earth. This corresponds to the image of the dawning sun. "Let there be light" literally discusses the first dawn when, out of the darkness the first light crept into the universe. God the son is represented by the midday sun. Here Jesus radiates the father's light and wearing glowing white gowns and with long golden hair, clear references to the light of the sun. Here we see god as the aspect that causes life and brings life forward. Also, this is where the sun shines brightest and fullest, symbolizing the pure light that was god in the flesh. The setting sun refers to the holy spirit. The setting of the sun means a going away of the light and a coming of the dark. Even without the physical body of Christ the holy spirit remains on earth. This is a reassurance that even though the sun is not out, there is not light, darkness is not the only ruler.

The Resurrection
Every night the sun would set, the great god would leave the sky, and the people would be left to darkness. As far back at least as early ancient Egyptian times the "death" and "rebirth" of the sun has been tied into the idea of resurrection. Jesus' death (sun set), decent into the underworld (the sun under the earth), and resurrection (dawn) are textbook solar worshiping beliefs.

Sin
The idea of sin is one of darkness vs light. Obviously as a solar deity the Christian God as the sun is light, whereas evil is associated with the devil and darkness. Once again we have a clear relationship to solar worship. The light is good but times were scary when the sun was down and the creatures of darkness (demons) could roam free. This idea stems from the sun being under the world dealing with evil and the people being left to darkness themselves. The daytime (sun, light) is good and the nighttime (no sun, dark) is sin.

December 25th
Probably the most obvious, the celebration of the birth of Christ is not even done when his birthday is thought to be, instead remaining on the 25th of December. All sun worshiping religions honor this time - the winter solstice - as the rebirth of the sun. The actual time of Jesus' birth is willingly ignored in order to honor the worshiping of the birth of the sun.

Other Holidays
February 2nd - Candlemas
March 22nd - St. Joseph Day
April 30th - Saint James the Great day
November 1st - All Saints' Day

 

[jeager106]

Yeah so your point is what?
That Christondom (sp?) is rotten with pagan ideals and symbols.
If so I agree.
Is that a problem?
Yes it is. Christianity shoud be free from any form of idolitry or paganism.
Why? Study of the religion should give you plenty of answers.

 

[Sha'irullah]

So Christians worship alternative energy?

 

[Desert Snake]

The other thread was a bust and it seems that this idea is not as well understood as I thought. So, I decided to bring up the main points and leave them open to debate. Of course, being an in depth thread without a heavy anti-whatever-group bias it'll probably do pretty poorly

The Trinity
The three aspects of the holy trinity correlate with the three positions of the sun - dawn, noon, and dusk. God the father is the dawning sun. A symbol of creation, birth, and rebirth, God the Father is the creator deity who first made, and now rules, over the earth. This corresponds to the image of the dawning sun. "Let there be light" literally discusses the first dawn when, out of the darkness the first light crept into the universe. God the son is represented by the midday sun. Here Jesus radiates the father's light and wearing glowing white gowns and with long golden hair, clear references to the light of the sun. Here we see god as the aspect that causes life and brings life forward. Also, this is where the sun shines brightest and fullest, symbolizing the pure light that was god in the flesh. The setting sun refers to the holy spirit. The setting of the sun means a going away of the light and a coming of the dark. Even without the physical body of Christ the holy spirit remains on earth. This is a reassurance that even though the sun is not out, there is not light, darkness is not the only ruler.

The Resurrection
Every night the sun would set, the great god would leave the sky, and the people would be left to darkness. As far back at least as early ancient Egyptian times the "death" and "rebirth" of the sun has been tied into the idea of resurrection. Jesus' death (sun set), decent into the underworld (the sun under the earth), and resurrection (dawn) are textbook solar worshiping beliefs.

Sin
The idea of sin is one of darkness vs light. Obviously as a solar deity the Christian God as the sun is light, whereas evil is associated with the devil and darkness. Once again we have a clear relationship to solar worship. The light is good but times were scary when the sun was down and the creatures of darkness (demons) could roam free. This idea stems from the sun being under the world dealing with evil and the people being left to darkness themselves. The daytime (sun, light) is good and the nighttime (no sun, dark) is sin.

December 25th
Probably the most obvious, the celebration of the birth of Christ is not even done when his birthday is thought to be, instead remaining on the 25th of December. All sun worshiping religions honor this time - the winter solstice - as the rebirth of the sun. The actual time of Jesus' birth is willingly ignored in order to honor the worshiping of the birth of the sun.

Other Holidays
February 2nd - Candlemas
March 22nd - St. Joseph Day
April 30th - Saint James the Great day
November 1st - All Saints' Day

Aha hahhahaa ..Well, that's entertaining, but I don't think so.

 

[psychoslice]

Just take a look at the zodiac, where you have the sun in the middle and the 12 signs surrounding the sun, what does that remind you of ?.

 

[1137]

Aha hahhahaa ..Well, that's entertaining, but I don't think so.

Want to add anything?

 

[1137]

Yeah so your point is what?
That Christondom (sp?) is rotten with pagan ideals and symbols.
If so I agree.
Is that a problem?
Yes it is. Christianity shoud be free from any form of idolitry or paganism.
Why? Study of the religion should give you plenty of answers.

I'd be interested in your reasoning.

 

[Desert Snake]

Want to add anything?

Well, perhaps. Your OP requires a bit of further analysis. The parts about the holiday dates, and the ''resurrection''' are good arguments, however the other issues are problematic, imo. I'd rather wait until further argumentation is presented.

 

[1137]

Well, perhaps. Your OP requires a bit of further analysis. The parts about the holiday dates, and the ''resurrection''' are good arguments, however the other issues are problematic, imo. I'd rather wait until further argumentation is presented.

So your concerns are with sin and the trinity as evidence of solar worship?

 

[Desert Snake]

So your concerns are with sin and the trinity as evidence of solar worship?

'Problematic' would be an understatement, but I'm not concerned about your theory; nothing to really add or ''argue'' about.

 

[Ingledsva]

The other thread was a bust and it seems that this idea is not as well understood as I thought. So, I decided to bring up the main points and leave them open to debate. Of course, being an in depth thread without a heavy anti-whatever-group bias it'll probably do pretty poorly

The Trinity
The three aspects of the holy trinity correlate with the three positions of the sun - dawn, noon, and dusk. God the father is the dawning sun. A symbol of creation, birth, and rebirth, God the Father is the creator deity who first made, and now rules, over the earth. This corresponds to the image of the dawning sun. "Let there be light" literally discusses the first dawn when, out of the darkness the first light crept into the universe. God the son is represented by the midday sun. Here Jesus radiates the father's light and wearing glowing white gowns and with long golden hair, clear references to the light of the sun. Here we see god as the aspect that causes life and brings life forward. Also, this is where the sun shines brightest and fullest, symbolizing the pure light that was god in the flesh. The setting sun refers to the holy spirit. The setting of the sun means a going away of the light and a coming of the dark. Even without the physical body of Christ the holy spirit remains on earth. This is a reassurance that even though the sun is not out, there is not light, darkness is not the only ruler.

The Resurrection
Every night the sun would set, the great god would leave the sky, and the people would be left to darkness. As far back at least as early ancient Egyptian times the "death" and "rebirth" of the sun has been tied into the idea of resurrection. Jesus' death (sun set), decent into the underworld (the sun under the earth), and resurrection (dawn) are textbook solar worshiping beliefs.

Sin
The idea of sin is one of darkness vs light. Obviously as a solar deity the Christian God as the sun is light, whereas evil is associated with the devil and darkness. Once again we have a clear relationship to solar worship. The light is good but times were scary when the sun was down and the creatures of darkness (demons) could roam free. This idea stems from the sun being under the world dealing with evil and the people being left to darkness themselves. The daytime (sun, light) is good and the nighttime (no sun, dark) is sin.

December 25th
Probably the most obvious, the celebration of the birth of Christ is not even done when his birthday is thought to be, instead remaining on the 25th of December. All sun worshiping religions honor this time - the winter solstice - as the rebirth of the sun. The actual time of Jesus' birth is willingly ignored in order to honor the worshiping of the birth of the sun.

Other Holidays
February 2nd - Candlemas
March 22nd - St. Joseph Day
April 30th - Saint James the Great day
November 1st - All Saints' Day

Most of us here do know about the Sun associations.

In Tanakh we actually find the word for Sun used for God several times, and many associations to the Sun.

Psalm 84:11 For a Sun and shield is YHVH Elohiym ; YHVH will give grace and glory; He will withhold nothing good from those who walk in integrity.

Psalm 68: 32, 33, 34 –

Sing unto God, ye kingdoms of the earth;

O sing praises unto the Lord; Selah:

To HIM that “RIDETH UPON THE HEAVENS,” which were of old;

lo, he doth send out “His Crackling Thunder Voice;”

and that a “mighty thunder. “

Ascribe ye strength unto God:

His excellency is “OVER” Israel,

and His Strength is in the Clouds.


THE PRACTICAL BIBLE DICTIONARY, SUN; The greater light, Gen. 1:15-18. WORSHIPPED by idolatrous HEBREWS, 2 Kgs 21:3,5; 23:5.

Unger's Bible Encyclopedia also has an article on this Hebrew sun worship. Etc.

Mal. 4:2 - But unto you who fear my name shall the "SUN" of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings/RAYS;

Wings is 3671 kanaph - edge, extremity, pinnacle, to project down, corner (corner of altar-horn-ray) In other words the SUN's healing RAYS, not wings!

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[te_lanus]

Yeah so your point is what?
That Christondom (sp?) is rotten with pagan ideals and symbols.
If so I agree.
Is that a problem?
Yes it is. Christianity shoud be free from any form of idolitry or paganism.
Why? Study of the religion should give you plenty of answers.

But if one remove all pagan influences from xianity you won't be left with much

 

[Sha'irullah]

So if Christianity is truly a solar worshiping cult then this means that they oppose the electric companies

 

[Khatru]

Seems like Christianity is a religion of fear.

After all, Christians often refer to themselves as "God-fearing".

 

[Laika]

This is news to me, so thanks from bringing it up as it is some really intriguing ideas.

 

[sojourner]

Yeah so your point is what?
That Christondom (sp?) is rotten with pagan ideals and symbols.
If so I agree.
Is that a problem?
Yes it is. Christianity shoud be free from any form of idolitry or paganism.
Why? Study of the religion should give you plenty of answers.

Why should it be "pure," as you say? Christianity, since the very beginning has set a paradigm of "remythologizing." It remythologized Judaism, and it remythologized Paganism. It also remythologized (or is remythologizing) native African religions. The misconception is that there is some pure, ancient Christianity that is free of Christmas and nature worship, and other stuff. There isn't. In fact, Christianity thrives best "on the edges," when it is about the business of remythologizing religions that are established.

 

[sojourner]

Seems like Christianity is a religion of fear.

After all, Christians often refer to themselves as "God-fearing".

Yeah, no. It's a religion of freedom (unless it's appropriated by overly-pietistic fundies).

 

[jeager106]

You are saying that there are no Christian religions that have not be influenced
by pagan worship?
Interesting.
The Jehovahs Witnesses go to great lenghts to keep their denomination free
of pagan notions. I.e. JW don't believe in hellfire and eternal damnation, nor do they celebrate the very pagan Christmas, or the even more pagan Easter, nor to they engage in supporting any government save for paying taxes.
And more.
Your thoughts on that?
I see pagan influences in most all Christian denominations but see none in the beliefs of the JWs.
Your views appreciated.

 

[Ingledsva]

You are saying that there are no Christian religions that have not be influenced
by pagan worship?
Interesting.
The Jehovahs Witnesses go to great lenghts to keep their denomination free
of pagan notions. I.e. JW don't believe in hellfire and eternal damnation, nor do they celebrate the very pagan Christmas, or the even more pagan Easter, nor to they engage in supporting any government save for paying taxes.
And more.
Your thoughts on that?
I see pagan influences in most all Christian denominations but see none in the beliefs of the JWs.
Your views appreciated.

Yes, but what about the basics coming from other religions/Pagans?

YHVH is a Sun God.

The Adam and Chav'vah, serpent, and tree, story comes from elsewhere. We have ancient art showing them standing by a tree with a serpent wrapped around it.

The Ark story comes from another religion, Etc.

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[psychoslice]

Seems like Christianity is a religion of fear.

After all, Christians often refer to themselves as "God-fearing".

Yes that's true, and what they do is turn around the word fear, and say that it really means respect,