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Christianity's role in African Slavery

etong

Member
What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?
Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East.
Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that
African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.


For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cu****es' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.
In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans.

In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.

Religion is the scum of the Earth
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Yawn,,, The practices of slavery and human trafficking are still prevalent in modern America with estimated 17,500 foreign nationals and 400,000 Americans being trafficked into and within the United States every year with 80% of those being women and children.

Your logic makes all Americans scum by still allowing slavery to continue in your country
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yawn,,, The practices of slavery and human trafficking are still prevalent in modern America with estimated 17,500 foreign nationals and 400,000 Americans being trafficked into and within the United States every year with 80% of those being women and children.

Your logic makes all Americans scum by still allowing slavery to continue in your country
Let's consider a significant difference.....
Slavery in Ameristan is illegal, & vigorously fought...& should be even more so.
But the Bible appears to condone it.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?
Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East.
Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that
African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.


For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cu****es' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.
In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans.

In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.

Religion is the scum of the Earth

It would appear you are quite slanted in your approach... Your position is quite religious in approach, dogmatic even.

What role did Christianity play in the stopping of slavery? What impact did Islamic slavery have? Who wrote "Amazing Grace"? Did he call himself a Christian before his slave trading exploitation? Would he say he was a Christian before or after his commitment to Christ?

How many people called themselves Christian and were Christian in name only?
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
I don't know where you get that message

'History. Christianity arrived in South Africawith settlers, starting with Jan van Riebeeck in 1652, when Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie (VOC, Dutch East India Company) authorized him to Asia.'ablish a post to resupply food and fuel to ships traveling between the Netherlands and Southeast and South Asia.

You're blaming the bible for slavery which was worldwide at that time in history
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Religion is the scum of the Earth

I like the mental gymnastics as you courageously omit that is was the native Africans that enslaved each other and sold each other off as slaves to the highest bidder (for hundreds of years) in a vain attempt to pin it all on religion.:rolleyes:
 

etong

Member
I like the mental gymnastics as you courageously omit that is was the native Africans that enslaved each other and sold each other off as slaves to the highest bidder (for hundreds of years) in a vain attempt to pin it all on religion.:rolleyes:

It's because your bible condemned them to forever slavery, read your Bible Genesis 9
 

etong

Member
Nope and that is a racist statement to make.

That Bible passage is not referring to black folk.

Actually, your Bible is racist, yous ee read Genesis 9, When Ham was cursed his face turned black, and his ancestors who were African were condemned for eternal slavery, uh oh!, that was the Justification for slavery by the South in Colonial America, and justification for racist Christians, read your Bible

I have studied Africa,race and the Bible
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Actually, your Bible is racist, yous ee read Genesis 9, When Ham was cursed his face turned black, and his ancestors who were African were condemned for eternal slavery, uh oh!, that was the Justification for slavery by the South in Colonial America, and justification for racist Christians, read your Bible

I have studied Africa,race and the Bible

You wasted your time studying then.

Nowhere in Genesis does it say anything about Ham turning black.

Noah cursed Ham and Canaan because Canaan was the result of an incestuous affair between Ham an his own mother (Noah's wife). That is what it talks about when Genesis speaks of Noah becoming drunken and then Ham "saw his father's nakedness". That's what happened. Ham got Noah drunk then impregnated his own mother.

Now unless you believe 2 Jews having sex can produce a black baby then you have no case really. Or maybe you believe Noah and his whole family were black? If that's so then why would Noah condemn his whole race to slavery? You are making no sense at all with your logic.

So that being said.

Native Africans enslaved each other and sold their own kin to the highest bidder for thousands of years. 2 Tribes would war over land/resources. The winning tribe would take over the land and resources of the losing tribe. They would then sell any remaining tribe members, mostly women/children.

Secondly it was Christian abolitionist that ended slavery in America. Christian Abolitionism - Wikipedia So without the Bible who knows how much longer slavery would have endured.

So yeah take these uneducated, racist, anti-religious, bigoted opinions elsewhere. :shrug:
 

etong

Member
You wasted your time studying then.

Nowhere in Genesis does it say anything about Ham turning black.

Noah cursed Ham and Canaan because Canaan was the result of an incestuous affair between Ham an his own mother (Noah's wife). That is what it talks about when Genesis speaks of Noah becoming drunken and then Ham "saw his father's nakedness". That's what happened. Ham got Noah drunk then impregnated his own mother.

Now unless you believe 2 Jews having sex can produce a black baby then you have no case really. Or maybe you believe Noah and his whole family were black? If that's so then why would Noah condemn his whole race to slavery? You are making no sense at all with your logic.

So that being said.

Native Africans enslaved each other and sold their own kin to the highest bidder for thousands of years. 2 Tribes would war over land/resources. The winning tribe would take over the land and resources of the losing tribe. They would then sell any remaining tribe members, mostly women/children.

Secondly, it was Christian abolitionist that ended slavery in America. Christian Abolitionism - Wikipedia So without the Bible who knows how much longer slavery would have endured.

So yeah take these uneducated, racist, anti-religious, bigoted opinions elsewhere. :shrug:


I did not waste my time studying that, I have much more research material on how Blacks were cursed by God and condemned to slavery, and oh yeah I'm an atheist so this is all BS, I would like to share my research over time here,

Africa is now a basket case because of racist Europeans taking their racist Bible serious and following his word to enslave them and making them cursed:

52 murdered in South Africa daily | ABS-CBN News
52 murdered in South Africa daily

5,500 children die in Eastern and Southern Africa every day | Press centre | UNICEF
5,500 children die in Eastern and Southern Africa every day

650 killed daily in African road accidents " UN - Premium Times Nigeria
650 killed daily in African road accidents – UN - Premium Times Nigeria

Despite Progress, 1,500 African Children Die Daily from Malaria | UNICEF USA
Despite Progress, 1,500 African Children Die Daily from Malaria

2017-06 - Ten to 20 South African children die of starvation every day - Wits University
https://www.wits.ac.za/news/latest-.../2017-06/ten-to-20-south-african-children-die

Dirty water kills 10,000 Africans daily.
'Dirty water kills 10,000 Africans a day'

The justification of slavery was made by yours truly, your bible,

Ancient texts said that Ham's face was blackened, then He made Cush, which made Africa

Noah had 3 sons Shem, Japheth and Ham. Noah only cursed Ham and his children and Ham's children were destined to be slaves to Shem and Japheth and their descendants. (Genesis 9)
Genesis 10 gives us the start of Nations.
Only Ham's children were the first Africans.
1. 4. Four Sons of Ham
1. Mizraim (Egypt)
2. Cush (Sudan, Ethiopia)
3. Put (Lybia)
4. Canaan (Land of Canaanites)

African slavery by themselves is a topic of another day, anyway after millions of lives crushed, there is no doubt that the Bible had a major role in slavery, Christian abolitionists were out shadowed and weak because they went against God, read Genesis 9
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Ancient texts said that Ham's face was blackened, then He made Cush, which made Africa

No some say cain fell and his face became blackened others that chains face was blackened by hail
 

etong

Member
No some say cain fell and his face became blackened others that chains face was blackened by hail

Lamentations 4:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

This is proof that Black skin is withered in the Bible
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Ancient texts said that Ham's face was blackened, then He made Cush, which made Africa

Noah had 3 sons Shem, Japheth and Ham. Noah only cursed Ham and his children and Ham's children were destined to be slaves to Shem and Japheth and their descendants. (Genesis 9)
Genesis 10 gives us the start of Nations.
Only Ham's children were the first Africans.
1. 4. Four Sons of Ham
1. Mizraim (Egypt)
2. Cush (Sudan, Ethiopia)
3. Put (Lybia)
4. Canaan (Land of Canaanites)

African slavery by themselves is a topic of another day, anyway after millions of lives crushed, there is no doubt that the Bible had a major role in slavery, Christian abolitionists were out shadowed and weak because they went against God, read Genesis 9

Complete horsep00p.

You can deny the Christian Abolitionist movement but it doesn't change the fact it was the white Christian's that ended slavery in America. Heck there was black slave owners even in the south. William Ellison - Wikipedia

It was a black slaver who first took a case to court to make slavery legal. Anthony Johnson (colonist) - Wikipedia

So sick and tired of white folk and Christians being blamed for the sins of black folk. Black folk did this to themselves. All of their problems are because of the decisions their ancestors made.
 

etong

Member
Complete horsep00p.

Translation: I don't have an argument and got destroyed

You can deny the Christian Abolitionist movement but it doesn't change the fact it was the white Christian's that ended slavery in America. Heck there was black slave owners even in the south. William Ellison - Wikipedia

It doesn't matter, those Christians disobeyed their god, like you are

It was a black slaver who first took a case to court to make slavery legal. Anthony Johnson (colonist) - Wikipedia

So?

So sick and tired of white folk and Christians being blamed for the sins of black folk. Black folk did this to themselves. All of their problems are because of the decisions their ancestors made.

All of their problems come from Racist Europeans just trying to follow what their Bible says,
 

Neutral Name

Active Member
What role did Christianity play in African Slavery?
Historical records show that Islam and Christianity played an important role in enslavement in Africa. The Arab-controlled Trans-Saharan slave trade helped to institutionalise slave trading on the continent. And during the 'age of expedition', European Christians witnessed caravans loaded with Africans en-route to the Middle East.
Others arriving much later in West Africa observed slavery in African societies, leading them to assume that
African enslavement was intrinsic to the continent.


For many of these early European explorers, the Bible was not only regarded as infallible, it was also their primary reference tool and those looking for answers to explain differences in ethnicity, culture, and slavery, found them in Genesis 9: 24-27, which appeared to suggest that it was all a result of 'sin'.

Moreover, in Genesis 10, the 'Table of Nations' describes the origins of the different 'races' and reveals that one of the descendants of Ham is 'Cush' - Cush and the 'Cu****es' were people associated with the Nile region of North Africa.
In time, the connection Europeans made between sin, slavery, skin colour and beliefs would condemn Africans.

In the Bible, physical or spiritual slavery is often a consequence of sinful actions, while darkness is associated with evil. Moreover, the Africans were subsequently considered 'heathens' bereft of Christianity, although scholars now suggest that Christianity reached Africa as early as the early 2nd century AD and that the Christian communities in North Africa were among the first in the world. However, Europeans doubtlessly refused to acknowledge the relevance of African Christianity as it appeared irreconcilable with the continent's cultural surroundings.

Religion is the scum of the Earth

There have been so many horrible, violent, hateful things done to people in the name of Christianity in Africa, the Americas and probably other places I'm not aware of. Well, I do know that they were violent with their own, in Europe, accusing people of heresy then burning them at the stake and other fun things.

I don't think that you have heard of the slave Bible or I think that you would have mentioned it.

"Good Christians" removed part of the Bible that spoke of freedom and other important issues to try to prevent slaves from trying to escape.

https://www.history.com/news/slave-bible-redacted-old-testament

The Shocking 'Slave Bible': Here Are the Parts That Were Deleted to Manipulate Slaves

Museum highlights ‘Slave Bible’ that focuses on servitude, leaves out freedom - Religion News Service

It is amazing to me how many "good Christians" have done the opposite of what Jesus said.

Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Neighbor is defined as everyone in the New Testament. No one is to hate or hurt anyone else.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Translation: I don't have an argument and got destroyed

You don't have an argument. Just a bunch of false allegations and racism.

It doesn't matter, those Christians disobeyed their god, like you are.

Nope, wrong again. I only judge on character/deeds, skin color is irrelevant.


Slavery was a problem created by black folk, long before white man or the bible came into play.

All of their problems come from Racist Europeans just trying to follow what their Bible says,

Incorrect, slavery existed in Africa and the Middle East long before Europeans entered the picture. Europeans owning slaves was for only a short time in the long history of slavery. Even then we abolished it long before Africa, which still has a slave trade to this day.

History proves you wrong on every point.
 

etong

Member
You don't have an argument. Just a bunch of false allegations and racism.

Yes I do, it comes from the Bible, Blacks have withered skin according to your god, read Lamentations 4:8

Nope, wrong again. I only judge on character/deeds, skin color is irrelevant.

you should because your god commands you to

Well
Slavery was a problem created by black folk, long before white man or the bible came into play.

No, Africans were created by Ham when he was cursed, read your Bible, Genesis 9

Incorrect, slavery existed in Africa and the Middle East long before Europeans entered the picture. Europeans owning slaves was for only a short time in the long history of slavery. Even then we abolished it long before Africa, which still has a slave trade to this day.

History proves you wrong on every point.

Who cares, Were talking about religion, not history
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
The Bible doesn't explicitly condemn the institution of slavery (what with Paul exhorting slaves to obey their masters - Colossians 3:22), so the Bible is easily used by both sides of the argument as a foundation.
 
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