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Christians: Did you know that Muhammad said this about Jesus?

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
मैत्रावरुणिः;3420786 said:
Namaste,

...Maybe you wear a cross?

M.V.

I could be wrong but I don't think too many Christians worship the cross (except when it has a statue of Jesus on it).
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The devil failed in Matthew 4. Agreed. Jesus passed the test. But if Jesus was God, as you claim, why was there a need for a test? Did GOD (the creator!) need to test himself?

And I have read your scripture. Have you read the Quran? Or did you just see the men with funny hats and scraggly beards on CNN and just assumed Quran must be a false scripture?

I enjoy anwsering your questions. I hope I don't come across as an adversary. I believe we have much in common.

There is no scripture but I will tell you why I did it and you can take it with a grain of salt if you like (That means you can be skeptical). I knew the devil would think that having me in the flesh would give him an advantage over me, so I allowed him to test me so I could show him how wrong he was.

Yes. I read a Saudi version from the Library and originally was reading the footnotes but the Holy Spirit was indicating that the footnotes were off base so I had to stop reading the footnotes.

I enjoy different headwear and beards. I do not hold the belief that different customs indicate false belief.

I don't beleive I assume much and in this case I read the Qu'ran with guidance from the Holy Spirit.
 
You have no idea what muhammad said or did not say. You also have no idea what jesus said or did not say. Words written on paper centuries ago hold no more weight than those written on paper today. Words written on paper are always heresay, regardless who wrote them. Most "holy" books have unknown authors for a reason.
 

Sculelos

Active Member
Jesus being God in flesh is your opinion. It means nothing to those who don't share your opinion. And perfection can only be attributed to God. Not Jesus, not Muhammad, not Abraham, nobody.

Matthew 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

If Jesus was God, could he be tempted by the devil? Could God be tempted by his own creation? If Jesus was perfect, could he be tempted by the devil? Do you know what prefect means? Without flaws. If Jesus was flawless, would he be tempted by the devil? It's in your own scripture. Use the noodle. You're worshipping a man. Not God!

Jesus is the Son of God, made in the express image of God. However Jesus also assumed a sinful nature and even though he was born sinful, he did not sin and in this way he was obedient even unto his own death and because he was obedient God raised him up so that he would be able to judge those who died from a human perspective with all honesty and fairness. The greater question becomes why did God do this? And the Answer lies in Hebrews 12.

12 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye ********, and not sons.

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

You have no idea what muhammad said or did not say. You also have no idea what jesus said or did not say. Words written on paper centuries ago hold no more weight than those written on paper today. Words written on paper are always heresay, regardless who wrote them. Most "holy" books have unknown authors for a reason.

I see nothing, I hear nothing, I sense nothing, I taste nothing, I feel nothing, I am nothing.
 
I see nothing, I hear nothing, I sense nothing, I taste nothing, I feel nothing, I am nothing.

I know. I feel the same way all the time.
 

Sculelos

Active Member
I see nothing, I hear nothing, I sense nothing, I taste nothing, I feel nothing, I am nothing.

I know. I feel the same way all the time.

Sometimes we all feel that way, but yet most of us continue on living to find meaning in life in something or another.

I personally think the meaning of life is learning what Love is, but yet we all must find for ourselves if we want to embrace or reject love for ourselves and love for others and love for our creator whomever that may be. I say God but some say that God nor Love truly exist as we are just insignificant blobs of evolved dirt on an insignificant planet called Earth and soon we will be die and be forgotten and anything and everything we have done in life would end up truly and utterly meaningless.

However I don't understand why anyone would want to believe that even if it were true and even if it were true, why would anything matter if it was?

As for Muhammad himself I believe he spoke of Jesus in a positive light calling him at least a prophet of God so Muhammad believed the Jesus was a messenger and he would judge the World at the appointed time.
 
In the name of Jah. I bear witness that there is no God but Jah.

Peace be unto you.

Dear Christian Brothers & Sisters...,

I just wanted to ask if you knew that the Prophet Muhammad said the following about Jesus:

"By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a just ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it." Bukhari hadith, Book #55, Hadith #657

What do you think of Muhammad saying that?

Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ ( Pbuh ), is given much Respect in The Holy Qur'aan .

The Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) , The Holy Qur'aan 48 ; 29 , 3 ; 144 , 33 ; 40 , 47 2 .

The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Holy Qur'aan 2 ; 81 , 2 ; 130
2 ; 254 , 3 ; 40 , 3 ; 45 , 3 ; 48 , 3 ; 52 , 3 ; 78 , 4 ; 156 , 4 ; 161 , 4 ; 169 , 5 ; 50 , 5 ; 82 , 5 ; 109 , 5 ; 112 , 5 ; 114 , 5 ; 116 , 6 ; 85 , 19 ; 35 , 33 ; 7 , 42 ; 11 , 43 ; 63 , 57 ; 27 , 61 ; 6 , 61 ; 14 ,

The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , has many Titles in The Holy Qur'aan . The Holy Qur'aan , Dedicate the whole 19th chapter to The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ ,Mother ( The Chapter of Mary ) , And a whole chapter of The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ ,Birth of The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ ,( The 4th Chapter of the Women ) .

While on the other hand basically , Only one chapter is dedicated to The Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) , ( Chapter 47 of The Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) . Nowhere is The Holy Qur'aan is The Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) ,called A Savior or Messiah .

The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ on a higher level . What I mean by this is , If you make a comparison of how the Holy Qur'aan talks about Moses and Muhammad you will see how The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ is praised more than The Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) himself .

Also The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ spoke of The Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) coming !
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Namaste, I have no picture f Jesus or Mary as far as I know. I used to wear a cross because I hoped it would instigate a converstion about Jesus but now I come upon people unaware.

Oh great...now I have to worry about ninja Christians trying to sneak up and stealth convert me.
 
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