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Christians: How do you know Lucifer is evil?

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Is Lucifer and baphomet the same " person "? And are all luciferians transgender or bisexual as it seems to have been implied? Where on earth does this " information " originate? Are we really meant to believe that a god of bisexuals is needed? Whatever next I wonder?


yes, he is needed to guide the bisexuals to become baphomet's best people. he is the god who is all of our dreams come true.

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Baphomet The Transgender God Of Bisexuals

A few days ago, the famous sculpture of Baphomet, the deity of Satanic worship, was unveiled in Detroit. Here is some information about Baphomet who has a strong connection to the LGBT community:

Baphomet is the transgender god of bisexuals. In the 14th century, the Knights Templar (men) were burned alive for worshiping the satanic baphomet. Nominally, they were supposed to be celibate and took a vow of celibacy. However, when they were caught worshiping baphomet, they were said to be having sex with each other. They practiced gay sex in secret, but they included men who were hetero and plus, their deity was transgender, so they revered the bi.

As you know, the Knights Templar are alive today as Freemasons. The Freemasons, who are men and who profess to be mostly straight(?), believe in an ancient prophecy of bisexual utopia:

"These ancient Freemasons, themselves being bachelor priests, 'men-who-wear-dresses', set out to make all future men 'androgynous' or, in other words, bisexual worker bees. When Masons finally have their way, all Original peoples, all women (x), as well as, all men who have dared to support either, are destined to be decertified, labelled as 'useless eaters', and, eliminated."

From "Freemasonry's Big Secrets they don't want you to know" by Glen Kealey

I have been told that the manner of worship includes bisexual origies next to a baphomet altar to show baphomet their love and consumption of transitioning hormones like DES or Diethylstilbestrol, a powerful synthetic estrogen which is known to cause transgenderism in boys, to transgenderize themselves in his name.
 
I don't know how baphomet is thought of as the transgender God. Isn't the image of him more animal than human? Does that not matter to anyone? Where did this image and people's beliefs about it originate?
 

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I don't know how baphomet is thought of as the transgender God.

baphomet has the body parts of male and female. that is sometimes called intersex but is by christian trans called transgender. hence baphomet is the transgender god. he is attracted to both sexes. hence he is the god of the bisexuals. in order to be like baphomet, you must take transgenderizing drugs like estrogen for men and testosterone for women to become half man/half women and then you must have ritual bisexual intercourse. that's how you worship baphomet as the transgender god of the bisexuals.
 

HekaMa'atRa

Member
yes, he is needed to guide the bisexuals to become baphomet's best people. he is the god who is all of our dreams come true.

==================================

Baphomet The Transgender God Of Bisexuals

A few days ago, the famous sculpture of Baphomet, the deity of Satanic worship, was unveiled in Detroit. Here is some information about Baphomet who has a strong connection to the LGBT community:

Baphomet is the transgender god of bisexuals. In the 14th century, the Knights Templar (men) were burned alive for worshiping the satanic baphomet. Nominally, they were supposed to be celibate and took a vow of celibacy. However, when they were caught worshiping baphomet, they were said to be having sex with each other. They practiced gay sex in secret, but they included men who were hetero and plus, their deity was transgender, so they revered the bi.

As you know, the Knights Templar are alive today as Freemasons. The Freemasons, who are men and who profess to be mostly straight(?), believe in an ancient prophecy of bisexual utopia:

"These ancient Freemasons, themselves being bachelor priests, 'men-who-wear-dresses', set out to make all future men 'androgynous' or, in other words, bisexual worker bees. When Masons finally have their way, all Original peoples, all women (x), as well as, all men who have dared to support either, are destined to be decertified, labelled as 'useless eaters', and, eliminated."

From "Freemasonry's Big Secrets they don't want you to know" by Glen Kealey

I have been told that the manner of worship includes bisexual origies next to a baphomet altar to show baphomet their love and consumption of transitioning hormones like DES or Diethylstilbestrol, a powerful synthetic estrogen which is known to cause transgenderism in boys, to transgenderize themselves in his name.

I think you'd be better off reading actual history rather than conspiracy theories of some quack that no real historian or scholar would take seriously.
 

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I think you'd be better off reading actual history rather than conspiracy theories of some quack that no real historian or scholar would take seriously.

some would say that ANY history of the devil is written by a "quack". the history above was assembled, i believe, from "historical" documents.
 

HekaMa'atRa

Member
the history above was assembled, i believe, from "historical" documents.

Sure, if you wanna believe the records of the inquisitors who tortured the "confessions" out of innocent people. Hey! I have a story about real witches in Salem I could sell you!!
 

HekaMa'atRa

Member
the salem witch trials ARE history.

Yes, thank you for filling me in. It's the analysis of historical documents that allows us to write history. The Salem Witch Trials was a historic event. Now do what the historians do, read the historical documents, and realize that they were based, much like the Templar case, on false accusations with ulterior motives and religious ignorance*. Or are you going to tell me the Salem Witch Trials is about how a small Massachusetts town was was plagued by witches in the 1600s?
 

chevron1

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Now do what the historians do, read the historical documents, and realize that they were based, much like the Templar case, on false accusations with ulterior motives and religious ignorance*. Or are you going to tell me the Salem Witch Trials is about how a small Massachusetts town was was plagued by witches in the 1600s?

is the bible about a god who plagued the egyptians or was it "false accusations with ulterior motives and religious ignorance"?
 

HekaMa'atRa

Member
Yes, thank you for filling me in. It's the analysis of historical documents that allows us to write history. The Salem Witch Trials was a historic event. Now do what the historians do, read the historical documents, and realize that they were based, much like the Templar case, on false accusations with ulterior motives. Or are you going to tell me the Salem Witch Trials is about how a small Massachusetts town was was plagued by witches in the 1600s?
is the bible about a god who plagued the egyptians or was it "false accusations with ulterior motives and religious ignorance"?

How does the book of Exodus have anything to do with two real historic events that deal with torture, false accusations, religious ignorance, and have primary sources to back them up?

But to answer your question, yes, a portion of the bible does tell a mythological story about the Abrahamic god plaguing the Egyptians. It doesn't mean it's true nor is there any physical evidence to support it as it's religious mythology and lacks historic primary sources.

Now answer my question, are the Salem Witch Trials historic events about a small village in Massachusetts that was being plagued by witches but "thankfully" were discovered and hanged?
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
As the title suggests. How do you know Lucifer is evil?

Bear in mind that the Bible is only one point of view on this subject particularly. In this case the Bible would be a lot like a politician's opinions or views against an opposition party.

So. Beyond propaganda, how do you know?
Because "Satan" is the avatar many of us to embody evil, as per biblical precedent. Many of us don't use that avatar at all. Bear in mind that the biblical tradition is our perspective. There is no "debate" to be had within strictly Christian theology from other perspectives.
 

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But to answer your question, yes, a portion of the bible does tell a mythological story about the Abrahamic god plaguing the Egyptians. It doesn't mean it's true nor is there any physical evidence to support it as it's religious mythology and lacks historic primary sources.

if the bible is false, then the devil is false. are you saying the WHOLE bible is false? what part has corroboration, please?
 

HekaMa'atRa

Member
if the bible is false, then the devil is false. are you saying the WHOLE bible is false? what part has corroboration, please?

There you go asking another question without answering mine first...Answer mine then we'll move to additional ones from you.
 

chevron1

Active Member
There you go asking another question without answering mine first...Answer mine then we'll move to additional ones from you.

all right. you want to know how the book of Exodus has anything to do with two real historic events that deal with torture, false accusations, religious ignorance.

do you know ari fridkis? ari is a reformist rabbi of the best kind of rabbi in the world. he's gay, that's what someone told me before she recommended him as my therapist. ari is man who knows god in the best way possible because he is so devout. he has seen god in the daytime of our lives and the nighttime of our dreams. he was in new york the last time i saw him and walking the narrow path of a tikkun cleric who believed that all people should know god in the two times of the one time of our time in the best time. ari always said that to be the best man you had to know how to swim with the best people and he taught swimming by setting the ground on fire. did you ever meet him? you must have met people like him in the middle east because his people are everywhere. nobody remembers him better than i do. he was the best therapist because he told me to remember him even on the sabbath, although it was not the best time to think of him in the naked hour of our lives. that's why i remember him so well and that's how the Book of Exodus is linked to real historical events.

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psychoslice

Veteran Member
Without poor old Satan we would have been always under the thumb of god, Satan freed us, he let us think for ourselves, yes some of the things we do are wrong, but at least we are free to do wrong or good.
 

ether-ore

Active Member
As the title suggests. How do you know Lucifer is evil?

Bear in mind that the Bible is only one point of view on this subject particularly. In this case the Bible would be a lot like a politician's opinions or views against an opposition party.

So. Beyond propaganda, how do you know?
I'm a little amused at the question. It is phrased such as Lucifer himself would ask it. The only source of information we have on Lucifer. We would not even know the name otherwise, and it is presented as though it were propaganda. The question seems to want to suggest that Lucifer is the victim slander. We know Lucifer became Satan the same way we know that God exists and Jesus is the Christ; because the scriptures say so. There is no other source of information on the subject. To say that Lucifer is not evil, is to say that the scriptures are not true. But maybe that is the point. "A politician's opinions or views against an opposition party" indeed. Very amusing.
 

HekaMa'atRa

Member
all right. you want to know how the book of Exodus has anything to do with two real historic events that deal with torture, false accusations, religious ignorance.

No, I'm sorry you misunderstood, my question was:

Now answer my question, are the Salem Witch Trials historic events about a small village in Massachusetts that was being plagued by witches but "thankfully" were discovered and hanged?

Had my question been, what does the exodus story have to do with the torture, false accusations, and religious ignorance involved with the salem trials and templar case- I'm sorry but your response made zero sense and I see no correlation whatsoever.
 

chevron1

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How does the book of Exodus have anything to do with two real historic events that deal with torture, false accusations, religious ignorance, and have primary sources to back them up?

No, I'm sorry you misunderstood....

maybe i did misunderstand but i did answer your question quoted above in this post, as-is.

are you saying that you are not interested in the answer.

the Book Of Exodus has much to do with the modern world of our lives.
 

HekaMa'atRa

Member
maybe i did misunderstand but i did answer your question quoted above in this post, as-is.

are you saying that you are not interested in the answer.

the Book Of Exodus has much to do with the modern world of our lives.

You're not purposely avoiding my question are you?

My question was, "are the Salem Witch Trials historic events about a small village in Massachusetts that was being plagued by witches but "thankfully" were discovered and hanged?"
 
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