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Christians: is there a hell?

Is there a hell?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 63.2%

  • No

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • Total voters
    19
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
F1fan said:
Christians will only believe in a hell if they believe they aren't going there.
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Well...thinking that Jack the Ripper deserves Heaven as reward for his trophies...well..
is a bit twisted...isn't it?:)
 
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F1fan

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Estro Felino said:
Well...thinking that Jack the Ripper deserves Heaven as reward for his accomplishments...well..
is a bit twisted...isn't it?:)
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According to some Christians if the Ripper accepted Jesus as lord and savior he would end up in heaven. It's the same loophole as Hitler ending up in heaven for the same repentance.

As an atheist do I think any of this literal heaven/hell dogma is true? Hell no. It is absurd and self-serving. Christians always claim to be heaven-bound, and hell is reserved for anyone they don't like. Forget the destination of souls being God's judgment, Christians think they can make this decision for God, as if they are God themselves.

To my mind heaven/hell makes vastly more sense as metahpors for how we live our lives. If we are kind, charitable, humble, share our resources to the needy, we would live in a heavenly state of mind. If we are greedy, selfish, mean, cruel, and uncharitable, then we live in a hellish state of mind. This is why there are the seven cardinal virtues and the seven deadly sins. Live by virtue, and you are heavenly. Live by vice and you are hellish.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Estro Felino said:
No...Countless Christians believe atheists and Christians have the same chances to get to Heaven.
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Some Chriatians believe that atheists have the same chances to get to Heaven, but only if these atheists do what these Christians 'believe' they are supposed to do to get there.
 
Brian2

Brian2

Veteran Member
Xavier Graham said:
Christian, do you suppose there is a hell?

Does hell exist? | GotQuestions.org

I see that the belief in hell isn’t that popular online as it is amongst the Christians I know in real life.
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Belief in hell seems to come with the notion that our soul is eternal. Whether that is true or not I don't know but the Bible does tell us that the soul can be destroyed (Matt 10:28)
Personally I do not see eternal torment as something God would do to people. The punishment outweighs the crimes imo.
 
MonkeyFire

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
Hell can’t be trusted as a spirit prison, let alone a hospital. In my religion we believe that satan rebelled against Hades Pass, the prison we had them in. That is the fallen light barer and that is the world we are in, the world of knowledge of good and evil (2/3 good).
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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Staff member
Premium Member
Estro Felino said:
Well...thinking that Jack the Ripper deserves Heaven as reward for his trophies...well..
is a bit twisted...isn't it?:)
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Yeah, although it sounds just as twisted as having Jack the Ripper share the same cell in Hell with someone whose only crime was to covet his neighbor's oxen.

Or someone stealing a loaf of bread being given the same punishment as Hitler. That would be Hell, in more ways than one.

Another thought comes to mind, somewhat related to the topic, is that I remember reading that it's estimated that the total number of humans who have ever lived on Earth could be somewhere around 100-120 billion. That's a lot of souls in the Afterlife. I've also heard that when there's no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth. But if there's no more room in Hell, then Heaven would probably be all booked up as well.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Stevicus said:
Yeah, although it sounds just as twisted as having Jack the Ripper share the same cell in Hell with someone whose only crime was to covet his neighbor's oxen.

Or someone stealing a loaf of bread being given the same punishment as Hitler. That would be Hell, in more ways than one.

Another thought comes to mind, somewhat related to the topic, is that I remember reading that it's estimated that the total number of humans who have ever lived on Earth could be somewhere around 100-120 billion. That's a lot of souls in the Afterlife. I've also heard that when there's no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth. But if there's no more room in Hell, then Heaven would probably be all booked up as well.
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Sins are not equal.
There's no such a thing as all sins are equal in the afterlife.
And there are no sinless people. Even saints sinned.
 
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