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Christians: Just What is in it for You?

ThirtyThree

Well-Known Member
Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshipping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshipping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?

For one thing, having the promised brotherhood where Jesus' followers have self-sacrificing love among themselves and others - John 13:34-35
Jesus taught his Father's name should be hallowed ( held sacred, sanctified ). The now completing of the international global work of Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8 will clear God's name of any reproach that is heaped upon it.
Also, looking forward to the soon coming time under Christ when he will govern over Earth for a thousand years when Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill. There will be healing for Earth's nations - Revelation 22:2
 

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshipping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?

The word "worship" is full of ambiguous connotations.
Jesus and John have both spoken to me.
They are friends of mine.
They have given me total peace through their direct communication.
I spread the word that they can do this for others.
I don't have all the details.
 

GreenKepi

Member
Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshipping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?

My faith makes the rest of the world make sense. It reconciles personal sufferings with happiness. It gives me a joy and optimism that many I know without faith don’t have. My identity and a way of life, that is often hard, is still joyful and in many ways, it makes everything logical!
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshipping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?
The privilege of knowing the true God Jehovah and his Son, Jesus Christ. Knowing the truth about what happens when we die and the hope for the dead. Not having to rely on the politicians to fix earth's problems. The sure hope of everlasting life. Knowing the truth about the meaning and purpose of life, etc. etc.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
The privilege of knowing the true God Jehovah and his Son, Jesus Christ. Knowing the truth about what happens when we die and the hope for the dead. Not having to rely on the politicians to fix earth's problems.
Assuming you're relying on god to fix earth's problems, what do you think he's waiting for?

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Muffled

Jesus in me
Assuming you're relying on god to fix earth's problems, what do you think he's waiting for?

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I believe He is waiting for you to receive Him as Lord and Savior. It is a good thing that He is patient. The alternative is too darn hot.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Assuming you're relying on god to fix earth's problems, what do you think he's waiting for?

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I believe the Bible teaches God has an appointed time to end man's mismanagement of the earth. 2 Peter 3:9,10 assures us; "Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance." Revelation 11:18 describes "the appointed time...to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth."
 

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
Christianity was my first spiritual language, and remains very influential in the way I think about things, which opens up wide avenues of thought and experience. Human language is pasted very awkwardly around spiritual matters, but when you truly understand the discourse of an ancient tradition (and this is the work of a lifetime, not a few minutes googling), you realize that there are names for the things you see and do in the spirit.

And Christianity brought me to Christ, who has been a lifelong companion to me as well as an example of the kind of life I should like to lead; always in the balance, defined by both joy and sacrifice at times.

Christianity ties me to my family in ways that fragile Western sociality usually does not. It brought me to the seminary, and despite the pain of that experience (or maybe because of it) that was where I truly became an adult, and reached the level of potential that I built the rest of my career in. In my professional life, having mastery of religion (degree-wise, not wisdom-wise) has often opened doors for my research and understanding, and not just of Christian sects. There is such a thing as genuine ecuminism, and trying to reach across faith lines is much easier than trying to reach into a faith while keeping your innermost self out of it as my atheist colleagues often do.

It has made me aware of the sins of Europe in dominating the world, in a way that I don't think I would have had I been able to comfort myself with the platitude that I had no personal stake in the dealings of history. This, again, has empowered my professional life more than it hurt it.
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
I believe the Bible teaches God has an appointed time to end man's mismanagement of the earth. 2 Peter 3:9,10 assures us; "Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance." Revelation 11:18 describes "the appointed time...to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth."
So in the meantime---thousands of years---the earth is left to go to pot, with millions upon millions of people left to live and die amid its problems. Nice guy.


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Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Jesus taught his Father's name should be hallowed ( held sacred, sanctified ). The now completing of the international global work of Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8 will clear God's name of any reproach that is heaped upon it.
A responsible leader is not afraid of criticism.

Also, looking forward to the soon coming time under Christ when he will govern over Earth for a thousand years when Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill. There will be healing for Earth's nations - Revelation 22:2
Heaven itself saw a rebellion, right? How convincing is it, then, that these various paradises, all of which contained some sort of melodrama, will suddenly and miraculously be free of it later?

I believe the Bible teaches God has an appointed time to end man's mismanagement of the earth
God's in charge. Buck stops at the top.

I mean, if healthcare administrators are aware of unethical things and say "hey, we'll get around to it", I can almost guarantee that at some point, they'll end up with their licenses revoked and maybe some prison time if there is justice in the world. If we in the healthcare field can be demanded to respond to issues promptly, surely God can.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So in the meantime---thousands of years---the earth is left to go to pot, with millions upon millions of people left to live and die amid its problems. Nice guy.


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And why has the earth experienced such trouble? I believe Satan has influenced the majority to ignore the true God and seek happiness from doing what they choose, rather than submit to Jehovah's authority. The outcome clearly shows the sad results of independence from God. People have caused great harm to others, and to themselves. Of course, this took time. But against the hope of everlasting life, IMO man's abortive attempt at self-rule took place within a single step in a billion mile journey. I am convinced that those who have died will be restored to life, and have the opportunity to live forever, once this wicked system is cleared away. (Daniel 2:44)
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
When you choose to become a Christian, no one showers you in riches or ensures that you have an easy life.
Christianity is more about what you give than what you take.

God loves all men, Christian or not. The Holy Spirit guides and comfort us all, Christian or not.
Christianity is not a free ticket to anything.

How ever it is clear that God wants all men to love and serve and protect all his creation, he does not force us, we have to choose to do so of ourselves.

Christians are those of us who follow, or at least attempt to follow, the teaching of Jesus.
We worship God as he taught as to, because just as God loves Us we owe him our love and devotion.

This is in the same way we love our parents... we do so not for gain but because they love us.

Our only reward in this life is to share a better world, and the hope and joy of the life to come.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
And why has the earth experienced such trouble? I believe Satan has influenced the majority to ignore the true God and seek happiness from doing what they choose, rather than submit to Jehovah's authority. The outcome clearly shows the sad results of independence from God. People have caused great harm to others, and to themselves. Of course, this took time. But against the hope of everlasting life, IMO man's abortive attempt at self-rule took place within a single step in a billion mile journey. I am convinced that those who have died will be restored to life, and have the opportunity to live forever, once this wicked system is cleared away. (Daniel 2:44)
So in the meantime---thousands of years---the earth is left to go to pot, with millions upon millions of people left to live and die amid its problems. Nice guy.


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Shad

Veteran Member
I believe He is waiting for you to receive Him as Lord and Savior. It is a good thing that He is patient. The alternative is too darn hot.

You did not see the implication of your statement. Try again.

If you need help I can spell it out for you.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
A responsible leader is not afraid of criticism.
Heaven itself saw a rebellion, right? How convincing is it, then, that these various paradises, all of which contained some sort of melodrama, will suddenly and miraculously be free of it later?
God's in charge. Buck stops at the top.
I mean, if healthcare administrators are aware of unethical things and say "hey, we'll get around to it", I can almost guarantee that at some point, they'll end up with their licenses revoked and maybe some prison time if there is justice in the world. If we in the healthcare field can be demanded to respond to issues promptly, surely God can.

' be free of it (melodrama) later ' because first Satan will be abyssed - Revelation 20
Then, Jesus will destroy Satan - Hebrews 2:14 B; Psalms 92:7
So, the wicked one will then be No more ever again - Psalms 37:10-11

If God had Not provided the action of Genesis 3:15 that a promised ' seed ' (Messiah) would come, then we can see that God right away did get around to it.
Before the 1,000-year governmental ruleship of Christ begins, first, Genesis 1:28 would have to come to pass. Mankind was to fill (populate) the Earth before action would be taken.

Once we reach the soon coming ' time of separation' on Earth - Matthew 25:31-33 - there will be a prompt response to the issues. Universal healthcare for all nations will follow - Revelation 22:2
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
So in the meantime---thousands of years---the earth is left to go to pot, with millions upon millions of people left to live and die amid its problems. Nice guy.
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The ' meantime ' is Now. We are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation' of Matthew 25:31-33,37.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16; Jeremiah 25:31-33
Satan will be abyssed - Revelation 20
Then, Jesus will destroy Satan - Hebrews 2:14 B
The wicked one will be No more - Psalms 37:10-11; Psalms 92:7
The humble meek will inherit the Earth - Matthew 5:5
Earth will be paradisical in health and beauty - Revelation 22:2
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Assuming you're relying on god to fix earth's problems, what do you think he's waiting for?
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Waiting for 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they ' (powers that be ) will be saying, "Peace and Security" as a final signal, so to speak, as a precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
The ' meantime ' is Now. We are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation' of Matthew 25:31-33,37.

mean·time
(mēn′tīm′)
n. The time between one occurrence and another; an interval.
adv. During a period of intervening time; meanwhile.
The interval/intervening time being between the first occurrence of humans and now.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16; Jeremiah 25:31-33
Satan will be abyssed - Revelation 20
Then, Jesus will destroy Satan - Hebrews 2:14 B
The wicked one will be No more - Psalms 37:10-11; Psalms 92:7
The humble meek will inherit the Earth - Matthew 5:5
Earth will be paradisical in health and beauty - Revelation 22:2
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Waiting for 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they ' (powers that be ) will be saying, "Peace and Security" as a final signal, so to speak, as a precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14
So in the meantime---thousands of years---the earth is left to go to pot, with millions upon millions of people left to live and die amid its problems. Nice guy.



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