Christians outlaw halloween in parish because it falls on THEIR holy day

[Skwim]

"On one year out of seven, Halloween hops to a calendar spot that haunts the Livingston [Fla.] Parish Council.

It’s a religious holiday, and the Livingston Parish Council has no right to tell people when they can celebrate it, the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana says in a letter to the council.

The council moved the parish’s Halloween trick-or-treating hours from Sunday night, Oct. 31, to Monday night, Nov. 1, because Oct. 31 falls on a Sunday this year, and some religious groups feel ghosts and goblins shouldn’t prowl on that hallowed day.

That decision is unpopular with many parish residents, so people in some subdivisions plan to ignore it, said Parish President Mike Grimmer, who disagrees with the council’s ordinance.

Violation of the parish ordinance can carry a fine of up to $500 and up to 30 days in jail, according to the ACLU.

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[Meow Mix]

"On one year out of seven, Halloween hops to a calendar spot that haunts the Livingston [Fla.] Parish Council.

It’s a religious holiday, and the Livingston Parish Council has no right to tell people when they can celebrate it, the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana says in a letter to the council.

The council moved the parish’s Halloween trick-or-treating hours from Sunday night, Oct. 31, to Monday night, Nov. 1, because Oct. 31 falls on a Sunday this year, and some religious groups feel ghosts and goblins shouldn’t prowl on that hallowed day.

That decision is unpopular with many parish residents, so people in some subdivisions plan to ignore it, said Parish President Mike Grimmer, who disagrees with the council’s ordinance.

Violation of the parish ordinance can carry a fine of up to $500 and up to 30 days in jail, according to the ACLU.

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Some people are so amazingly smart.

 

[linwood]

Livingston isn`t too far from me.
Maybe Ill take the kids out of town for trick or treating this year.

I live for **** like this.

 

[JustWondering]

Wish I could say I'm surprised by something like this but I'd be lying.

 

[Father Heathen]

Hopefully a lot of people catch wind of this and plan a massive trick or treating there that day. Hopefully some with sacrilegious costumes as a bonus. Showing up right at the door of each councilman/councilwoman.

 

[stlekee]

In California its against the law to use the term 'Christmas' in schools. Its refered to as "Winter Holiday'. Can't even have a Santa Clause, not sure about Rudolf or Frosty. But Halloween is way cool. Go figure.

 

[Storm]

In California its against the law to use the term 'Christmas' in schools. Its refered to as "Winter Holiday'. Can't even have a Santa Clause, not sure about Rudolf or Frosty. But Halloween is way cool. Go figure.

Now, come on. Is it "against the law," or do they just not play favorites anymore?

 

[Smoke]

I don't know what to make of a world where non-believers have to defend Christian holidays against attacks by Christians.

All this stuff about Halloween, Christmas, and Easter being pagan holidays is hogwash. They're Catholic holidays. The ancient pagans didn't have Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, and they didn't dress up like Darth Vader or Hello Kitty and go door-to-door begging for candy. It's All Hallows Eve, for god's sake. It's not Samhain.

Fundagelicals hate holidays not because holidays are anti-Christian, but because fundagelicals are miserable, joyless ***** who despise merrymaking and can't abide the thought of anybody celebrating anything except the kind of mindless, militaristic jingoism they associate with God and Country.

 

[uu_sage]

This prohibition reeks of 16th and 17th century Puritanism

 

[Smoke]

In California its against the law to use the term 'Christmas' in schools. Its refered to as "Winter Holiday'. Can't even have a Santa Clause, not sure about Rudolf or Frosty. But Halloween is way cool. Go figure.

And then when they pause from ******** about how holidays are pagan, they go berserk because anybody who doesn't say "Merry Christmas" to them is pretty much the equivalent of Emperor Nero burning Christians as torches.

My advice to Christians is, put the Mass back in Christmas. Quit acting like you're persecuted because everybody in the world doesn't acknowledge your holiday -- that's right, the same one you ***** about all the time -- quit going on FoxNews complaining about how brutally you've been persecuted by the ******* atheist Nazi Communist Mexican Muslim clerk at the Wal-Mart who wished you "Happy Holidays," quit trying to put up manger scenes all over public property, shut the **** up, and go to church.

 

[Riverwolf]

...but isn't Nov. 1 a hallowed day, as well? Isn't that why it's called "All Hallows' Eve"?

 

[gnomon]

My town did this crap last time.

No trick or treating on Sunday. What actually happened was we took my nephew out on Saturday and Sunday.

Ridiculous.

 

[MoonWater]

wait, how is it even legal for them to actually outlaw it's celebration and how can a church parish fine and arrest people for going against it's ordinances?

 

[sojourner]

"On one year out of seven, Halloween hops to a calendar spot that haunts the Livingston [Fla.] Parish Council.

It’s a religious holiday, and the Livingston Parish Council has no right to tell people when they can celebrate it, the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana says in a letter to the council.

The council moved the parish’s Halloween trick-or-treating hours from Sunday night, Oct. 31, to Monday night, Nov. 1, because Oct. 31 falls on a Sunday this year, and some religious groups feel ghosts and goblins shouldn’t prowl on that hallowed day.

That decision is unpopular with many parish residents, so people in some subdivisions plan to ignore it, said Parish President Mike Grimmer, who disagrees with the council’s ordinance.

Violation of the parish ordinance can carry a fine of up to $500 and up to 30 days in jail, according to the ACLU.

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sooo... they move it from Sunday, which is a common celebration, and put it on November 1, which is All Saints' Day -- one of the major feast days of the Church. Go figure...
And completely ignoring the fact that Halloween derives from the eve before All Saints' to begin with (from a Xian POV).

 

[truseeker]

Pagans may not have had a Santa Claus but they celebrated Dec 25 as a pagan holiday. The church figured it would be easier to "convert" people if it let them keep their old holidays so they changed the name to Christmas and made it a church holiday. Christ was not born anywhere near Dec 25.

 

[Skwim]

...but isn't Nov. 1 a hallowed day, as well? Isn't that why it's called "All Hallows' Eve"?

From Wikipedia

"Origin of name The word Halloween is first attested in the 16th century and represents a Scottish variant of the fuller All-Hallows-Even ("evening"), that is, the night before All Hallows Day. Up through the early 20th century, the spelling "Hallowe'en" was frequently used, eliding the "v" and shortening the word. Although the phrase All Hallows is found in Old English (ealra hālgena mæssedæg, mass-day of all saints), All-Hallows-Even is itself not attested until 1556."​

 

[Skwim]

I don't know what to make of a world where non-believers have to defend Christian holidays against attacks by Christians.

All this stuff about Halloween, Christmas, and Easter being pagan holidays is hogwash. They're Catholic holidays. The ancient pagans didn't have Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, and they didn't dress up like Darth Vader or Hello Kitty and go door-to-door begging for candy. It's All Hallows Eve, for god's sake. It's not Samhain.

Fundagelicals hate holidays not because holidays are anti-Christian, but because fundagelicals are miserable, joyless ***** who despise merrymaking and can't abide the thought of anybody celebrating anything except the kind of mindless, militaristic jingoism they associate with God and Country.

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[Smoke]

Pagans may not have had a Santa Claus but they celebrated Dec 25 as a pagan holiday. The church figured it would be easier to "convert" people if it let them keep their old holidays so they changed the name to Christmas and made it a church holiday. Christ was not born anywhere near Dec 25.

I know it's not Jesus' actual birthday, but I'm not really buying all that crap about sticking Jesus onto a pagan holiday. Lots of people around the world have celebrated holidays on the solstices and equinoxes, but that doesn't make them all the same holiday.

Advent calendars? Christian.
Advent candles? Christian.
Manger scenes? Christian.
Christmas trees? Christian.
Midnight Mass? Christian.
Santa Claus? Christian.
Christmas carols? Christian.
Christmas cards? Christian.
Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer? Montgomery Ward.

Where's the pagan holiday? Are these people arguing that the winter solstice itself is pagan?

 

[stlekee]

Hey Smoke, don't blow a gasket. This whole thread is about goverment restrictions on what is and isn't 'politically correct', whether its rednecks banning Halloween or the ACLU getting Christmas banned. I'm not complaining about it near as much as your over-reaction. The real point is that kids enjoy Halloween and Christmas and all the other 'holidays' - which is actually the words 'holy days'.

Yes Smoke, I worked as an instructor, not teacher, for a school district and we were instructed to not use the word 'Christmas' around students. There could be no symbols of any kind, religious or secular. I know Christmas is all about retailers balancing the books at the end of the year, but I also remember being a kid and truly enjoying the happy times associated with Halloweens and Christmas'.

Christmas was originally a pagen holiday to celebrate the winter soltase, the Sun begins rising higher in the sky from that time forward. A rebirth and begining of a new cycle of seasons. Christians took it over and got their own son to be born on that day. There is no evidence to support that Jesus was born at this time of year, lots of folks think he was born in the spring.

Please don't assume that I'm Christian just because I believe in something that I call God for lack of a better word.

 

[Storm]

Hey Smoke, don't blow a gasket. This whole thread is about goverment restrictions on what is and isn't 'politically correct', whether its rednecks banning Halloween or the ACLU getting Christmas banned.

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I wasn't aware that the Liberal Illuminati were so powerful!