SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I'd say that's a pretty clear sign that he knows he's guilty
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Christians what do you think about Trump's convictions
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Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
If you have been told Trump's conviction was due to anything other than the falsification of business records, you have swallowed BS. Trump doesn't swear-in on his own behalf in legal matters because his lies would then be breaking the law. He knows as long as he is not under oath, he can legally lie all he wants.
You need to face the truth about this man even if you still choose to support him. At least support honestly who he truly is.
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Whateverist
Active Member
Every single Christian I know online (and there are very few where I live in RL) believes he is guilty and undeserving of being elected again. But they all fear that he will be every bit as much as I do. The electorate has gone bat**** crazy.
Laniakea
Not of this world
One doesn't need to even say the word "hero" to hold someone up as one.
So your red herring may as well be allowed to swim away.
So, you say that this cbsnews text is not true?
"Under New York law, falsification of business records is a crime when the records are altered with an intent to defraud. To be charged as a felony, prosecutors must also show that the offender intended to "commit another crime" or "aid or conceal" another crime when falsifying records.
In Trump's case, prosecutors said that other crime was a violation of a New York election law that makes it illegal for "any two or more persons" to "conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means,"
What was Trump convicted of? Details on the 34 counts and his guilty verdict
Former President Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records. Here's what to know about the charges.
www.cbsnews.com
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
That's from the New York Post, not MSN.
From the article:
"Asked if Biden had been 'accurate' with his debate claim, James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, said, 'Not exactly.'
'If he had said "could have" or "may have," that would comport with what the intent, as I felt it was, of
the public statement, not a definitive statement [that] this was Russian interference,'"
It's not exactly a huge lie.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Show me somewhere where I've quoted him and called him a hero, and you'll have an actual point.
Put up or shut up. Thanks.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
You've provided the proof of my statement. Check what you're reading: falsification of business records 34 times.So, you say that this cbsnews text is not true?
"Under New York law, falsification of business records is a crime when the records are altered with an intent to defraud. To be charged as a felony, prosecutors must also show that the offender intended to "commit another crime" or "aid or conceal" another crime when falsifying records.
In Trump's case, prosecutors said that other crime was a violation of a New York election law that makes it illegal for "any two or more persons" to "conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means,"
What was Trump convicted of? Details on the 34 counts and his guilty verdict
Former President Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records. Here's what to know about the charges.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Read my post again.
Gain some wisdom (or at least reading comprehension).
Sorry, thanks for correcting.
Never is, when it is a lie that one likes.
Which was a crime only because "an intent to defraud". It is dubious claim that Trump did so to defraud. But, if we accept that, we can also say Biden lied, which would not be a crime on itself, but because "an intent to defraud", it should be similarly a crime.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Hire a lawyer and see if they can't explain it to you.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
He wasn't "lynched" but was found guilty by a jury of his peers. Do you believe you know more about his cases than they?
Again, this is what trials and juries have to sort through and legally determine. Seems you don't believe in the "rule of law".
Show us where Biden said or implied that? If you can't, then maybe do some serious soul-searching.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Sure, but compare that with the lies about the 2020 election Trump spreads, which led to the January 6th violence at the Capitol. Or, his lying about the extent of the violence at the Capitol.
“They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the Capitol and in many cases were ushered in by the police.”
Here's a look at some of the false claims made during Biden and Trump's first debate
The Associated Press examines false and misleading statements made by Donald Trump and Joe Biden as they prepare to face off in the Election 2024 presidential debate.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe accusations are easy to make. We should just be smart and make them in Republican states where he won't get a fair trial.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I trust the the repair place. Some of them I wouldn't trust but in those I know I don't get my car until I sign.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that does not preclude taking a person to court when the person is no longer a candidate. The idea is to prevent these politically motivated court cases.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Whether (s)he is or isn't a candidate is irrelevant as the important issue is "Did (s)he break the law?". Supposedly, "no one is above the law". However, the ideal that "justice is blind" simply isn't true.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Show me somewhere where I've quoted him and called him a hero, and you'll have an actual point.
Anything at all will do.
Just sitting there making snide remarks doesn't cut it.
Put up or shut up. Thanks.