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Clinton Indictment "Likely"

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Whereas Trump's is (are) a fait accompli.
Trials should begin in a month or so.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
The rest of the world is like...
your-candidates-are-bad-and-you-should-feelbad.jpg
 

Parchment

Active Member
Trump is actually due in court in November on fraud charges, and due back in court in December on child rape charges
Conveniently after the elections- There may be bigger and more important questions we should be asking if all charges are dropped and or he is found not guilty regardless of the outcome of the election.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Trump is actually due in court in November on fraud charges, and due back in court in December on child rape charges -- and all the media wants talk about are two unnamed people saying an indictment of Clinton is "likely".

What happens if trump gets caught and guilty charge after hes in office, will he be impeached?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What happens if trump gets caught and guilty charge after hes in office, will he be impeached?
That actually worries me, very much, because it will mean Trump is incapable of carrying out his duties, leaving the Bible Thumping bigot Mike Pence in charge (in that event, I can only hope the world fights him once more like it did against him with his own RFRA in Indiana).
 
Fox news cites two separate FBI sources that claim Clinton indictment is "likely" in light of pay-for-play interaction with the Clinton Foundation. More details in links below.

Seems like politically motivated propaganda to me. The wording just seems a bit too 'convenient'.

I think the Clinton Foundation is rotten and am not going to stick up for it. Saudis donating millions to charities that promote women's rights is not too hard to see through.

But then again I don't think the only difference between CF and much 'normal' lobbying is a matter of scale due to their influence. Most major political donations aren't altruistic after all. It is just a rotten system.

It is cash for access, and this is true right across the political spectrum.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Seems like politically motivated propaganda to me. The wording just seems a bit too 'convenient'.

I think the Clinton Foundation is rotten and am not going to stick up for it. Saudis donating millions to charities that promote women's rights is not too hard to see through.

But then again I don't think the only difference between CF and much 'normal' lobbying is a matter of scale due to their influence. Most major political donations aren't altruistic after all. It is just a rotten system.

It is cash for access, and this is true right across the political spectrum.
I thought the Clinton Foundation was very highly rated, with an above average proportion of revenue going to services, and that the Clintons weren't making a dime from it.
 
I thought the Clinton Foundation was very highly rated, with an above average proportion of revenue going to services, and that the Clintons weren't making a dime from it.

Why do you think the governments of Saudi, Qatar, Oman Bahrain and the UAE who very much don't believe in women's rights would donate millions to a charity that has empowering women as one of its major aims?

Why are politicians paid $100,000 for an hour's speech?

Why do you think ex-politicians/civil servants become very rich after they retire working a few hours a month as a board member of consultant to big businesses? What are they buying given that it clearly isn't knowledge of the business itself.

Why do you think companies donate money to political campaigns?

Why do you think companies and foreign governments spend billions on lobbying?

Do you think this is healthy for democracy and something that should be defended?

If Sanders had won and was attacking Jeb Bush for analogous behaviour (as he righty attacked Clinton for it), would you be as willing to see it as purely innocent?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
When will some here realize that Fox is not a real news station but is an unofficial arm of the right? The indictment charge that they spewed out has been proven to be bogus, but my guess is that they will repeat it.
 
When will some here realize that Fox is not a real news station but is an unofficial arm of the right? The indictment charge that they spewed out has been proven to be bogus, but my guess is that they will repeat it.
All major media outlets run on money, like everything else. Most of it comes from the left...we are bombarded with lefty crap from all angles.
So what if the right can afford one out of 8.

American media is propaganda and infotainment
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
All major media outlets run on money, like everything else. Most of it comes from the left...we are bombarded with lefty crap from all angles.
So what if the right can afford one out of 8.

American media is propaganda and infotainment
It was money from the right that enabled the consolidations that created the handful of mainstream news outlets that dominate the airways today.
It was deregulation from the right that enabled the merger of news and entertainment departments in radio and TV, and transformed money-loosing, public service news departments into lucrative entertainment departments.
And Fox? Fox was a purpose created propaganda arm of the Republican party from the get-go.

"Liberal media" is a right wing Big Lie, repeated so often and from so many different sources the public's come to believe it.
Gone are the days a journalist would dare take a stand against the war on the six o'clock news.

News departments today are small subdivisions of massive corporations. Massive corporations don't like controversy -- it's bad for business, ergo, "news" divisions keep their heads down, take no sides and simply "report" 'he said-she said'.
 
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It was money from the right that enabled the consolidations that created the handful of mainstream news outlets that dominate the airways today.
It was deregulation from the right that enabled the merger of news and entertainment departments in radio and TV, and transformed money-loosing, public service news departments into lucrative entertainment departments.
And Fox? Fox was a purpose created propaganda arm of the Republican party from the get-go.

"Liberal media" is a right wing Big Lie, repeated so often and from so many different sources the public's come to believe it.
Gone are the days a journalist would dare take a stand against the war on the six o'clock news.

News departments today are small subdivisions of massive corporations. Massive corporations don't like controversy -- it's bad for business, ergo, "news" divisions keep their heads down, take no sides and simply "report" 'he said-she said'.
Yet here we are, inundated and saturated with leftist content, messages, and moralisms from that so called right wing media.

You can stick a feather up a pigs butt but that doesn't make him a chicken.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
All major media outlets run on money, like everything else. Most of it comes from the left...we are bombarded with lefty crap from all angles.
So what if the right can afford one out of 8.

American media is propaganda and infotainment
"Nice" stereotype, but I don't work out of stereotypes.
 
"Nice" stereotype, but I don't work out of stereotypes.
Me either, that is the reality of it. Or are you seriously, with a straight face, going to tell me the greater Nomos of the west hasn't swung further left than it ever has?

So far left in fact to make room for a ridiculously weighted counterswing from the right?(trump)

Trump is only a thing because so many are so sick and tired of touchy feely safe space socialism that literally ANYTHING is better than that.

Open your eyes.
 
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