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Congratulations to Germany!

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
http://www.gemenergy.com.au/german-...ucing-100-of-its-electricity-from-renewables/

1 - Congratulations to Germany for this great achievement and for showing the world that it can be done, and it's not even that complicated.

2 - Why aren't more countries following this great example???
Congratulation , Germans always forward in many issues .

in next 20 or 30 years Europe will import solar electricity that will comes from North Africa (Morroco , Algeria,Libya,Egypt) .
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
2 - Why aren't more countries following this great example???
It's probably just a matter of time. German engineers were the ones who pretty much laid out the foundations and blue prints for much of the technological developments in the latter half of the 20th century, which guided technological developments into the 21st century, and it looks like they'll be leading us into the 22nd century.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
80% of Germany's energy from renewable sources? my god that's good!
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
The US is somewhere around 12.9%
Two problem I see is the power companies private and there's not a lot of profit in renewable.
And the limitation of the "renewable" resource. There are only certain location where wind energy can be used. Same for hydroelectric. Solar is limited to the daytime.

The cost for Germany to generate this electricity is tremendous.

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-expensive-gamble-on-renewable-energy-1409106602

Who's going to pay for the cost? It's not the government.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Who's going to pay for the cost? It's not the government.
The Germans don't like cheap junk like Americans do. Often they'll pay extra for something to get a higher quality, unlike Americans who will often pay lower prices for lower quality items. And they also realize their lifestyle does cost more (Walmart didn't last long in Germany, where people are often regarded as "penny pinches."). But they aren't as greedy with their taxes and they aren't nearly as worried about trying to keep those few lazy bums off welfare to the point that they end up taking them away from people who should have them like we see in America.
But, for Germany, natural conservation has also been a pressing issue for them, unlike America. It's about 80 million people in an area about the same size as California (which has about 39 million). Things like food, water (aquifers have tapped throughout Europe), and even energy resources, have to be considered in a way that Americans don't because Germany doesn't have miles-and-miles of meadows, trees, and fields to start putting people on or growing food on like America does.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Not to a buzzkill but that 80% was a spike for a day. Germany isn't actually running at that capacity yet. More like 20% or something. Now by 2050, that might be a different story.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
The Germans don't like cheap junk like Americans do. Often they'll pay extra for something to get a higher quality, unlike Americans who will often pay lower prices for lower quality items. And they also realize their lifestyle does cost more (Walmart didn't last long in Germany, where people are often regarded as "penny pinches."). But they aren't as greedy with their taxes and they aren't nearly as worried about trying to keep those few lazy bums off welfare to the point that they end up taking them away from people who should have them like we see in America.
But, for Germany, natural conservation has also been a pressing issue for them, unlike America. It's about 80 million people in an area about the same size as California (which has about 39 million). Things like food, water (aquifers have tapped throughout Europe), and even energy resources, have to be considered in a way that Americans don't because Germany doesn't have miles-and-miles of meadows, trees, and fields to start putting people on or growing food on like America does.

Germans actually end up paying less because they use much less electricity per household than Americans do. They just pay more for what they do use. Also Germany has ended up producing more Co2 because of renewable electricity. Renewable energy is not a stable source, and conventional power plants have shutdown. So they have had to rely more on coal plants for backup because renewable sources haven't been able to keep up with demand.

Considering US power usage, it's just not something currently feasible. Nothing that's currently available is going to solve the problem. Maybe Nuclear like Nietzsche said, but folks are afraid of it.

I wish we had a cheap stable source of power. That's what we really need here. I hope science can come up with something.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I wish we had a cheap stable source of power. That's what we really need here. I hope science can come up with something.
And it can't with people constantly balking it. If the government gave just a small slice of the money it gives to coal and oil to alternative energy sources, we'd be further ahead than we are. And I don't think anyone assumes it will be an overnight change, but a series of steps in which conventional methods of energy production are gradually replaced by better ones.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
And it can't with people constantly balking it. If the government gave just a small slice of the money it gives to coal and oil to alternative energy sources, we'd be further ahead than we are. And I don't think anyone assumes it will be an overnight change, but a series of steps in which conventional methods of energy production are gradually replaced by better ones.

But it doesn't. It was in my mind the billions wasted on other things. I know they give tax break for other folks to invest their money. However It seems they should have the resource to solve the problem if the government was willing. Cap and Trade does nothing except make some folks richer.

Politicians get richer and nothing gets solved.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
They actually care about their people in Germany.
LOL! I thought you was BibleStudent for a second with the They Live signature thingy.
But, yeah, Germany generally does care more. Though they do have a weird education system, they decided to make college tuition-free because even costing next-to-nothing was making it cost-prohibitive for some.
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
I think it is fantastic and applaud Germany for opening its doors to this humanitarian disaster, however I am concerned about the ability to accommodate and assimilate such a large shift in cultural differences. If this immigration program exceeds a certain point then down the track it is highly likely that there will be a severe right wing swing that will lead to social derision and often violent consequences. Look at history, especially in Germany. Should the question not be addressed at the source?

Should the US return and finish the job George W Bush started? How many refugees are Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Russia, China and African nations taking? Some like Jordan, Turkey and Lebanon are bearing an unfair burden. Should Australia be taking Syrians from half way around the planet instead of the similarly placed refugees from Myanmar already on our doors step and we already have the worlds highest per population influx of refugees?

I think they would all be welcome here so long as they leave their baggage behind and become Australian.

Cheers
 
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