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Consciousness

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
This relates to discussions in the Zoroastrianism DIR.
I have asked you several times to show from any valid hindu source that consciousness was a product of activity.
Atanu, you may find this interesting:

“Hindu philosophy emphatically declares that mind is matter -- although extremely subtle matter. Hindu psychology does not see any difference between matter and energy. Hindus recognize psychic energy, which they considered to be the manifestation of the cosmic energy called Prana, long before Professor Jung felt the need for a concept of psychic energy. The oldest school of religious philosophy, the Sankya school, which is several thousand years old -- saw no difference between matter and energy. (Ed: nor later did Einstein!)”
http://www.meta-religion.com/Physics/Consciousness/hindu_philosophy_of_the_mind_and.htm#.Vfy59hGqqko

“So chitta, the real consciousness, the primary consciousness of Vedanta, appears both as matter and as conventional consciousness: vyavaharika chitta. This real chitta is sat-chitta, existence-consciousness, while our empirical consciousness is a chitta-vritti, mode of consciousness, a mixture of the subject and the object. For the same reason even the limited subject is a vritti, a mode of consciousness.”
http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Consciousness

I am sure Lord Krishna must have explained it in BhagawadGita (e.g., from where consciousness arises?). I will post that later. For more, try this: https://www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1LENP_enIN576IN576&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=hinduism consciousness arises from&es_th=1
And if 'i-me-mine' are illusions, what is the status of your so-called 'analysis'?

Moreover, dhyana and dharana have nothing to do with analysis but these entail pin pointed attention on a single object that leads to eventual cessation of movement of mind.
’I-me-mine’ belong to Vyavaharika. Mind has the power to leave these behind. Pre-suppositions, prejudices bind mind. Once they are abandoned you are in the land of ‘sat-chitta’. That is where meditation is necessary, for abandoning, for dissociating.

What objects? There are no objects. There are thoughts. ‘Dhyana’ and ‘Dharana’ is about thoughts and not a swinging pendulum or a the flame of a candle.
 
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atanu

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I will not continue beyond this one post because I know the futility.

Do you not understand the following sentence from your own citation?


“So chitta, the real consciousness, the primary consciousness of Vedanta, appears both as matter and as conventional consciousness: vyavaharika chitta. This real chitta is sat-chitta, existence-consciousness...."

Your own citation explains that the real chitta is sat chit ananda.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
“So chitta, the real consciousness, the primary consciousness of Vedanta, appears both as matter and as conventional consciousness: vyavaharika chitta. This real chitta is sat-chitta, existence-consciousness...."
As I understand this, there is a Vyavaharik 'chitta' (human consciousness) and a 'Sat-Chitta' (the consciousness of what exists). The two are very different.
 

Ekanta

om sai ram
As I understand this, there is a Vyavaharik 'chitta' (human consciousness) and a 'Sat-Chitta' (the consciousness of what exists). The two are very different.
I was under the impression that there is only one consciousness...
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Well, views differ, Ekanta. Some may have this view, others may believe in a universal consciousness.
 
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