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Conservatives only: Do you believe that same sex marriage should be legal?

Do you believe that same sex marriage should be legal?


  • Total voters
    21

IsmailaGodHasHeard

Well-Known Member
I am not asking if you support it. I am asking if you think it should be legal. I do not support same sex marriage but I am prochoice about it. I see this as a freedom of religion issue. People are going to be gay any way so we might as well make it legal. To any Christians who object to this: I object to it too, but I believe that our jobs as Christians are not to dictate religion through the government because that would be wrong, but to win people to Jesus one soul at a time.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
in a bottle if it were possible. Why ask only the conservatives? (and by that I do continue asking if you may provide the info: what makes you a conservative? )
It should be noted that this is a Conservative Only Dir and if one needs to ask for a definition of what a Conservative is, then they are not likely a Conservative. There are numerous sites on the net that can answer your every question on the matter.

That said, in reference to the OP, I do believe that Same sex marriages should be enshrined as part of the legal system of all secular counties.
 
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IsmailaGodHasHeard

Well-Known Member
in a bottle if it were possible. Why ask only the conservatives? (and by that I do continue asking if you may provide the info: what makes you a conservative? )

I ask for only the conservatives because that is the group that I am interested in. I already know what the liberals think, because I used to be one, and the libertarians are all for it so I am only asking the conservatives at this time.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
I see no problem with same sex "civilian unions", but disagree with same sex marriage. Call me old fashion ( because I am old) but to me marriage is between a man and a woman. I really do not see why it is such a "big thing" for those of the same sex to say they are "married". Marriage used to be a "religious" ceremony and was to "legalize" in the eyes of God their union for the propagation of the human species. Also it was to legalize, in the eyes of society, the child of that union for legal status. Bas**rd (censor got me on that word) was and probably still is a slur on a persons legal status.
 
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arhys

Member
Nope. Voted against it when it came up here. Amounted to little more than a protest vote since trying to block a liberal agenda in the Northwest is like trying to stop a roving Mongol horde, but my conscience is clear.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
No, I am completely and totally against any and all legal recognition of same sex unions.
We recognized gay marriage several years ago, here in Canada, and the country did not fall apart. It's only a threat to your "sensitivities" if you let it be a threat.
 

ZooGirl02

Well-Known Member
We recognized gay marriage several years ago, here in Canada, and the country did not fall apart. It's only a threat to your "sensitivities" if you let it be a threat.

I am not saying that a nation will fall apart because of "gay marriage". However, I do believe that legalizing it will drastically and negatively affect a nation's moral values.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I am not saying that a nation will fall apart because of "gay marriage". However, I do believe that legalizing it will drastically and negatively affect a nation's moral values.
Remember, you are addressing a conservative thinker, my friend. I have to ask, "In what ways have Canada's "moral values" been negatively affected by the giving of basic human rights to same sex couples?" I am all ears...
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
I am not saying that a nation will fall apart because of "gay marriage". However, I do believe that legalizing it will drastically and negatively affect a nation's moral values.

Haven't you posted before that you're an ally to the LGBTQ communities, or am I confusing you with someone else?

Personally, I believe in the importance of separation of church and state and think that our moral values should be defined by "us" and indiviudals. We are, individually, influenced by different things - religion, personal experience, etc. The uniting of a same-sex couple in a civil contract does not harm my moral values. In fact, many of the things that conversatives support throught hen otion of a civil contract.

I believe that civil union/contract should be available for consenting adults, regardless of sex/gender and the same benefits and laws that govern any "marriage" contract can apply to same-sex contracts. It shouldn't be complicated.
 

Rocky S

Christian Goth
No, I do not support same sex marriages. But that does not mean I ostracize individuals from the gay community. I have friends that are gay, and they know my position. I just believe marriage is between a man and a women. I am a conservative, and people are very surprised by that due to me appearance. But looks can be deceiving lol..
 

Great White North

Civis Romanus sum
Remember, you are addressing a conservative thinker, my friend. I have to ask, "In what ways have Canada's "moral values" been negatively affected by the giving of basic human rights to same sex couples?" I am all ears...

Marriage as an institution has the strong correlation of creating a family. Now while I don't really argue against gay marriage, from what I understand the traditional argument is that it erodes the traditional meaning association of what is a family and promotes the establishment of non-traditional family structures (which is ultimately not the greatest for society because the nuclear family is most strongly associated with positive outcomes).

Now personally I don't care. It's not my responsibility to enforce a religious standard on people - religion is a choice. But if gay marriage is legal it needs to be handled carefully because a lot of the legal benefits associated with marriage exist to promote birth rates and make it easier to have children. And giving those benefits to gays is just terrible for the balance sheet of the state.
 

ZooGirl02

Well-Known Member
Remember, you are addressing a conservative thinker, my friend. I have to ask, "In what ways have Canada's "moral values" been negatively affected by the giving of basic human rights to same sex couples?" I am all ears...

I was not saying that this affect would happen immediately or even quickly. I do believe it will be a long term effect though. I mean, in my opinion it may take 50 or more years to see the results.

Haven't you posted before that you're an ally to the LGBTQ communities, or am I confusing you with someone else?

Personally, I believe in the importance of separation of church and state and think that our moral values should be defined by "us" and indiviudals. We are, individually, influenced by different things - religion, personal experience, etc. The uniting of a same-sex couple in a civil contract does not harm my moral values. In fact, many of the things that conversatives support throught hen otion of a civil contract.

I believe that civil union/contract should be available for consenting adults, regardless of sex/gender and the same benefits and laws that govern any "marriage" contract can apply to same-sex contracts. It shouldn't be complicated.

Yes, I have been an LGBTQ ally in the past. I am no longer such.
 

Galen.Iksnudnard

Active Member
I voted yes because there is nothing inherently "anti-conservative" about gay marriage.

To me it is about consistency. Either the government should recognize all marriages or it should recognize none. End of story.

Marriage equality is a civil right, and as conservatives it is important to preserve status quo of the direction our government is heading towards. We as conservatives shouldn't be so ready to dismiss comparisons between the discrimination homosexuals have faced and Jim Crow.
 

ZooGirl02

Well-Known Member
I'll be honest. I am surprised to see so many conservatives who are for "gay marriage". In my opinion, conservatives are generally against it.
 
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