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Contentment and Striving for Material Success?

bp789

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Hinduism places great importance on the idea of contentment (santosha), or being satisfied and grateful for what you have now, but what does that mean in terms of wanting material success? Many people in the modern world strive to get good grades and work hard in school in order to get a good job. Many people also work hard in their jobs, so they can get a promotion or higher pay and give a better life for their families. Some people that were born in poverty were definitely not content with their lives, and they spent their entire lives studying and working hard, and the end result was them achieving great financial success and a comfortable life for their family. How can the idea of contentment be reconciled with material success? Or do I not have the correct understanding of contentment?
 

Fireside_Hindu

Jai Lakshmi Maa
Contentment has a lot to do with gratitude.

People spend an excessive amount of time pursuing material goals without stopping to take stock of what blessings they already have. This creates the illusion that we never have enough. Also, very few people actually know what they are really reaching for when they set goals. We all say we want to be happy, but we have a very muddy definition of what that means.

If I only had more money, I'd be happy...
If I only lived somewhere else, I'd have more friends...
If I only have a bigger house, I'd be more comfortable...

People tend to keep setting external conditions for their happiness and this leads to a lot of misery. But if you set a goal, work fervently toward it, and remember to express your gratitude/ walk in someone else shoes a little each day, that helps put things in perspective. Even when you fall short of your goals you can see the silver lining. That's true contentment - knowing that you are blessed, even when the material world tells you otherwise.


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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Hinduism places great importance on the idea of contentment (santosha), or being satisfied and grateful for what you have now, but what does that mean in terms of wanting material success? Many people in the modern world strive to get good grades and work hard in school in order to get a good job. Many people also work hard in their jobs, so they can get a promotion or higher pay and give a better life for their families. Some people that were born in poverty were definitely not content with their lives, and they spent their entire lives studying and working hard, and the end result was them achieving great financial success and a comfortable life for their family. How can the idea of contentment be reconciled with material success? Or do I not have the correct understanding of contentment?

Seeking contentment is one of our goals, yes. But so is artha Artha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia So there is nothing inherent within artha that would make a person not contented.
 

Gupta

New Member
A man can be content while also striving for material success, but as long as it is not done so out of greed. However, this contentment is limited for it applies to only one aspect of a person's life. If someone wanted to feel true contentment, they would have to become free of the ego (greed, passion, desire, etc). Once true contentment is felt, you would not have the desire for material success.
 

Ikolain

Hindu Member
A man can be content while also striving for material success, but as long as it is not done so out of greed. However, this contentment is limited for it applies to only one aspect of a person's life. If someone wanted to feel true contentment, they would have to become free of the ego (greed, passion, desire, etc). Once true contentment is felt, you would not have the desire for material success.

This is true but could someone be free of the desire for material success if they still have a duty to support their family's needs/comfort?
 

Gupta

New Member
This is true but could someone be free of the desire for material success if they still have a duty to support their family's needs/comfort?

An interesting question. I would say that yes someone can be fully content while still having a duty to their family. They would not be selfishly striving for material success, but would instead by doing so for their family.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
This is true but could someone be free of the desire for material success if they still have a duty to support their family's needs/comfort?

I think it's all in the head/heart. Some poor people are totally driven for material gain, whereas some rich people think little about it. So, yes, I think you can be free of it. Just live within your means, and be content with that.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Contentment has a lot to do with gratitude.

People spend an excessive amount of time pursuing material goals without stopping to take stock of what blessings they already have. This creates the illusion that we never have enough. ...

If I only had more money, I'd be happy...
If I only lived somewhere else, I'd have more friends...
If I only have a bigger house, I'd be more comfortable...

People tend to keep setting external conditions for their happiness and this leads to a lot of misery.

Yes, and what happens when we reach those goals? Are we really content or do we want more. I think I know the answer, and it isn't contentment. Not to veer off course, but Taoism (which I think has a lot in common with Hinduism) says to live life in a way that is as simplistic as possible and be grateful for what you have. Not in a "just be happy you have a roof over your head" snarky way, but a "OK, I have a happy life" and don't be greedy way. It can be a bad trap we fall into feeling we never have enough.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I think it's all in the head/heart. Some poor people are totally driven for material gain, whereas some rich people think little about it. So, yes, I think you can be free of it. Just live within your means, and be content with that.

Some poor people, who know they are poor, are as happy as anyone can be, while the billionaire is miserable. I think the poor happy people are the ones who have the right idea.
 

Fireside_Hindu

Jai Lakshmi Maa
Yes, and what happens when we reach those goals? Are we really content or do we want more. I think I know the answer, and it isn't contentment. Not to veer off course, but Taoism (which I think has a lot in common with Hinduism) says to live life in a way that is as simplistic as possible and be grateful for what you have. Not in a "just be happy you have a roof over your head" snarky way, but a "OK, I have a happy life" and don't be greedy way. It can be a bad trap we fall into feeling we never have enough.


I think when we reach goals we simply find new ones. Not because we are unsatisfied, but because we are compelled to action. New goals don't always have to be for "more" - they can be for something else. Learn something new, have an experience you've been afraid of having, taking risks etc.

This is keeping in mind that these times of action should be punctuated with periods of rest and reflection too - for balance.

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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
A bit off topic, but within a couple of years, we are downsizing from a house to a condo. Not too many people I know do this at our age. Maybe quite a bit later. But we have other goals, like pilgrimage, giving while we're alive, etc.
 
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Fireside_Hindu

Jai Lakshmi Maa
My mother in law recently downsized to a condo. I think it's a sign of the times. People are realizing that bigger doesn't mean better, it just means higher liability.

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Viraja

Jaya Jagannatha!
Hinduism places great importance on the idea of contentment (santosha), or being satisfied and grateful for what you have now, but what does that mean in terms of wanting material success? Many people in the modern world strive to get good grades and work hard in school in order to get a good job. Many people also work hard in their jobs, so they can get a promotion or higher pay and give a better life for their families. Some people that were born in poverty were definitely not content with their lives, and they spent their entire lives studying and working hard, and the end result was them achieving great financial success and a comfortable life for their family. How can the idea of contentment be reconciled with material success? Or do I not have the correct understanding of contentment?

Hinduism defines 4 phases in life - that of Bala, Brahmachari, Gruhastha, Vanaprastha.

During the Bala phase, one is actively involved in studies.

During the Gruhastha phase, one is involved in actively looking for material prosperity for his family. One of the modern day Vaishnava devotee of great merit/plus a scholar is Sri Velukkudi Krishnan. Even being a devotee of great calibre, we see him sometimes participate in business ventures - such as publishing calendars and selling them for the proceeds to go to non-profit ventures and so forth. We see him visiting foreign countries for upanyas - he will still charge them for all this, but maybe a very nominal fare. So you see, life has to go on. On top of everything, our own desire for realizing our true potential exists as a motivating force. So the focus of this phase of Gruhastha is to enable that i) our family is well-fed, their goals in life are met with adequately out of our quest for material prosperity ii) our own strife to realize our true potential for a greater sense of personal satisfaction, is met with. The point is that we can make as much money as our true potential allows us to, without falsification or bribery of sorts, but then also practice 'dharma' or charity, which I believe to be 5% to 25% depending on how well to do one is.

Vanaprastha - During this phase, is the time when one seeks god fervently. The focus on kama and other material pursuits is almost extinct. The only goal is to seek god and to procure union with him in the afterlife.

You can take a standard work such as Thirukkural, as a guide to follow, which will provide with a balance of the opposite forces that motivate every person - between artha (materialism) and moksha (seeking god).

Pranam.
 
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