averageJOE
zombie
I agree. I think he just needs to hate cops.
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Cop murders 12 year old boy
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freethinker44
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It's either that or we are to believe ordinary people suddenly become deranged lunatics when police are around. If that were the case you would expect the police's job to much more dangerous, but the statistics just don't support that narrative. It seems far more likely that this is a product of an above the law "us against them" mentality compounded by the fact that they aren't held accountable for their actions.
Hey y'all! Everyone heard about the Newark police officer who was shot and killed, right?
No? Neither has anyone else.
Killer of off-duty Newark cop sentenced to 40 years in prison | NJ.com
Where's the protesters?
No? Neither has anyone else.
Killer of off-duty Newark cop sentenced to 40 years in prison | NJ.com
Where's the protesters?
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
True.
I know that there are some incompetent, and some wicked... cops. But the majority carry on in a spirit of service to their communities under the most difficult conditions.
The gutter press do prey on each and every incident.
Look at this rubbish, printed by the independent, a bloody Brit spreadsheet paper.....
'The 911 responder twice asked whether the boy was black or white before dispatching officers.'
Of course the bloody responder did this.......asked for full description of boy, and therefore black was mentioned, and then repeated it back for accuracy. But the paper doesn't mention that his sex, height, age, identifying features, clothing, etc were checked back..... just his skin colour, because that triggers emotions in the readers.
Some people are cop haters. Me? I'm a newspaper hater.
Nada
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It seems the police shot him right away as soon as they exited the vehicle.It seems it was the passenger who shot him.Wow!
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
I don't hate cops at all. If there was a bill in congress to dissolve the nations police force, I would be the first one to sign the petition to stop it. The only thing worse than a corrupt police force is a vigilante.
I don't hate cops. We need cops. I hate that cops don't have to follow the laws they enforce. I hate that they aren't held accountable by the justice system. I hate that good cops cover for bad cops or are fired when they don't.
Right, which is why the one cop circled away from the car and to the left. Seems to me if you want to judge a situation, you do it from a distance, as well as try to distance yourself from harm. He did not rush in.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
Which is what the first cop completely failed to do, and ended up murdering a kid.
I mean, what was there to rush in to at that point? The kid was murdered before the first cop could even put the transmission in park.
I watched the video and it has no audio and doesn't show enough information. Not really helpful. It's too hard to see where the gun was. The police only had a half-second to save his own life if it was real remember.
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No assessment of the situation. No attempt to de-escalate. Cops arrived to the scene and immediately shot that poor boy.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
And exactly when was this supposed to happen in the half second or less between the time the cops arrived and killed the kid?
Too bad the video doesn't have audio. Do they broadcast before stopping? I'm not an expert, the guy is.
I have no doubt cops have a very hard job and they put their lives on the line everyday, and all the good cops also get a bad rap from all the corrupt cops out there. They have every right to protect their own lives, but shooting first and asking questions later seems to be all too common lately, especially when it comes to people of color. I can't say for sure that this is an example of that, but it sure doesn't help any.
JerryL
Well-Known Member
That's not a valid comparison. Find a cop-killer that the grand-jury failed to indite; then you have apples-to-apples.Hey y'all! Everyone heard about the Newark police officer who was shot and killed, right?
No? Neither has anyone else.
Killer of off-duty Newark cop sentenced to 40 years in prison | NJ.com
Where's the protesters?
JerryL
Well-Known Member
I'm unclear. How much time does it usually take to not reach for your gun?
Me? Would have dropped the thing when the car was rolling up... though startled people don't always behave well.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
I'm guessing you misunderstood my post because your reply doesn't make any sense in the same context.
That video is completely useless to me. There's nowhere near enough information. The video is blurry, so I can't see what's going on at all, there's no audio so I can't tell when or where the required instructions to surrender may have been, if anywhere, and to top it off, the ghosting framerate makes what little information there is impossible for my untrained eye to fully detect.
Someone's phone-cam recorder would have had more information. At least there would have been sound, and the framerate would have been viewable.
And I'm therefore going to go one further on the "all cops should wear mounted cameras" thing: they all should record audio as well as video, and the video should be the highest resolution tax-dollars can afford. (...plus, though this should go without saying, the video on those cameras should be available to the public, in cases like this, unedited.)
Paradox22
I'm only Hume ian
"Two police officers responded to the scene and ordered the boy to raise his hands, the police said, but he refused and reached for a gun in his waistband."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/u...ng-shot-by-cleveland-police-officer.html?_r=2
If that is how it went down, I can can understand their action. It was probably justified "by the book."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/u...ng-shot-by-cleveland-police-officer.html?_r=2
If that is how it went down, I can can understand their action. It was probably justified "by the book."
McBell
Unbound
Source please.
And I mean specifically a source that supports your implied claim that Ohio law allows for anyone, let alone minors, to not only carry a fire arm openly, but also to wave it around pointing at people in a public setting.
i will again have to ask you to present your soure that police are not allowed to even ask for ID in a situation as such.
Spoken like a truly gifted armchair law enforcement officer.