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Could you creat a fly ?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I agree that it would be an interesting challange. :)

This is all hypothetical, but the only reason this couldn't work is if there is a non-material "force" that animates species and gives them life such as a "soul" or a form of consciousness. As a materialist, I would discount that possibility because I believe all forms of consciousness originate from matter organised in the brain. That is controversial and widely disputed for scientific and philosophical reasons. I think Abrahamic religion say only humans have souls (being made in gods image). So if that were true, it would only exclude humans.

Again- this is all "hypothetical", but I hope that answers your question. :)
I have another answser,If I am atheist I would said "the nature" defeat us in this issue :)

a fly weight less than 1g had two genders (male/female),we can't make a similar to it despite the knowledge we reach,really shame on us :D
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Well revelent atoms would be nessessary first. I think it has to do with the atomic shell and compatibility of one atom with another producing those molecules that forms the basis of DNA and starts replication. If life started over again, it's likely that new form will emerge in an altered enviroment since the fly itself didn't fare to well.
Actuatly I can't buy "words",and "guess"

You need a designer , to design two "male " and "female" flies at same time.harmonious . it's not subjective matter.

that's what human being fail to do,and will fail for sure.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Actuatly I can't buy "words",and "guess"

You need a designer , to design two "male " and "female" flies at same time.harmonious . it's not subjective matter.

that's what human being fail to do,and will fail for sure.
I don't think it necessitates a designer in a sense of a dieity or similar. Its clear matter and energy plays a crucial role in the manner by which any material acts and reacts.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't think it necessitates a designer in a sense of a dieity or similar. Its clear matter and energy plays a crucial role in the manner by which any material acts and reacts.
It's does , because it's had mult-fonctions and organs and different genders....etc
 

McBell

Unbound
Ah, you have feeling too :D
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lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Hello everyone :)

Hello!!

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Let's imagine that all species and plants are die for any reason,only you lucky one to live :)
and you can live forever.

I'm not sure how that is 'lucky'...!!


and supposing your first mission is creat a living fly insect (male and female), how much time you will take to creat a two living fly(male and female), and how,why the humans now could not ?

Who gave me the mission?
Why flies?
Humans now cant live forever, so I'm assuming whomever set the mission gave me magical powers, right?? I'd just use those.

ZAP!!!!!

Job's done.

NOTE:
my questions is for atheist or pro-evolution as starter of live.

Well...I'm an atheist. So I answered. But who thinks evolution started life?? They sound confused.

I have two requests:

1-Please take my question in serious way :)

I did!!!

2- Don't tell me the same story that species will appears from nothing by billions of years, and the fly will be one of them :D

I didn't!!!

So. Do I win? Can I get my magic powers and eternal life now?
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I have another answser,If I am atheist I would said "the nature" defeat us in this issue :)

a fly weight less than 1g had two genders (male/female),we can't make a similar to it despite the knowledge we reach,really shame on us :D

Lol. :D

Nature can inly defeat our efforts if our knowledge and technology are inadequate to reproduce a natural pheneomena. I think It is only if there is something "non-physical" at work that we cannot replicate that there is a problem.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Lol. :D

Nature can inly defeat our efforts if our knowledge and technology are inadequate to reproduce a natural pheneomena. I think It is only if there is something "non-physical" at work that we cannot replicate that there is a problem.
Say after me,and repeat three time:p
"Our knowledge and technology defeated by "nature",and ALL human being can't creat a single fly"
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't think it necessitates a designer in a sense of a dieity or similar. Its clear matter and energy plays a crucial role in the manner by which any material acts and reacts.
Are you serious?

there is no energy plays a crucial .... to creat a single fly.
you have a labs, go ahead :)

btw If someone tell you and try to convince you that cars,and planes designed by it self, so there is not designer.

what you will respond to him?
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Say after me,and repeat three time:p
"Our knowledge and technology defeated by "nature",and ALL human being can't creat a single fly"

"Our knowledge and technology defeated by "nature", and ALL human beings can't create a single fly"

"Our knowledge and technology defeated by "nature", and ALL human beings can't create a single fly"

"Our knowledge and technology defeated by "nature", and ALL human beings can't create a single fly"

...yet. :D
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Are you serious?

there is no energy plays a crucial .... to creat a single fly.
you have a labs, go ahead :)

btw If someone tell you and try to convince you that cars,and planes designed by it self, so there is not designer.

what you will respond to him?
Of course there is energy. Our nervous system requires pulses and signals in order to function. We use electricity to start hearts and register on monitors... No energy no life.

As for cars and such, it's not organic, so it's not going to replicate much less procreate more cars.

To make flys in a lab, you collect eggs and hatch maggots until they pupate into flys.
 
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