Could you creat a fly ?

[Godobeyer]

As for cars and such, it's not organic, so it's not going to replicate much less procreate more cars.

To make flys in a lab, you collect eggs and hatch maggots until they pupate into flys.

1- Just admit we can't and our science can't reach that level,and very probably will can't too.


2-this remind me about which came first egg or chicken
Mmm, So you will imitate the original method !!

Why don't you start with collect organs and combine them then starter it,as we do with cars ...etc?

 

[Jumi]

I don't think anyone thinks we can do more than nature when nature is everything and it has had billions of years time to do anything. Modern science is just hundreds of years old, though we have achieved more than humanity before hundreds of years ago just with that little.

 

[Godobeyer]

I don't think anyone thinks we can do more than nature when nature is everything and it has had billions of years time to do anything. Modern science is just hundreds of years old, though we have achieved more than humanity before hundreds of years ago just with that little.

life started before 700 millions years.(estimation)

It's like saying nature had mind and intellegence, so actual human can't reach it!
btw you don't take my second request of OP , because I totally reject this non sense guess and failure explaination

 

[Jumi]

btw you don't take my second request of OP , because I totally reject this non sense guess and failure explaination

The request is the same if we requested you not to use something we don't believe.

1-Please take my question in serious way
2- Don't tell me the same story that species will appears from nothing by billions of years, and the fly will be one of them

It makes perfect sense to me that universe always existed and life took time to reach the forms it has. Flys are temporary. Se many species have disappeared and keep disappearing. There's no need for the flies to exist like they are.

 

[Twilight Hue]

1- Just admit we can't and our science can't reach that level,and very probably will can't too.


2-this remind me about which came first egg or chicken
Mmm, So you will imitate the original method !!

Why don't you start with collect organs and combine them then starter it,as we do with cars ...etc?

It get clearer as one studies molecular chemistry. We can't do it of course at this point in time, but we can understand more as to how it all works.

The fact we can already make synthetic material and produce new elements on the periodic table shows that Its a step in the right direction to cracking this mystery. Maybe opening more intriguing questions as we find answers.

 

[Godobeyer]

The request is the same if we requested you not to use something we don't believe.

Because I don't consider that respond as valid one, it's just subjective justification and its instead of saying we just failure to know how life started.

everthing complex had designer,and had starter, it's impossible that it's has inside designer.

It makes perfect sense to me that universe always existed and life took time to reach the forms it has. Flys are temporary. Se many species have disappeared and keep disappearing. There's no need for the flies to exist like they are.

There was species appears,so species disappeared by time is happened,it's not big deal.

 

[Godobeyer]

It get clearer as one studies molecular chemistry. We can't do it of course at this point in time, but we can understand more as to how it all works.

The fact we can already make synthetic material and produce new elements on the periodic table shows that Its a step in the right direction to cracking this mystery. Maybe opening more intriguing questions as we find answers.

Of course we know how it's works,but we don't know who give it all the fonction that it's has.
and we could not creat similar to it .

Yes we could made/construct planes and missile, mega projects...etc but If all humans gathered to creat a fly,they woud not, what coincidence!

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Yes we could made/construct planes and missile, mega projects...etc but If all humans gathered to creat a fly,they woud not, what coincidence!

So...proving that man can't create a fly proves God did? Weird theory. Pretty sure no-one ever claimed humans invented life.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

according to me that just theory , this is off-topic

Why humans could NOT create a single living fly?

Let me ask a slightly different question: there are many deadly, often ghastly parasites in the world, that cause untold suffering, misery and death to millions upon millions of people, including our tiniest and most helpless infants. If you could create even one of these – would you? God did, according to you, and not just one but all of them!

 

[Godobeyer]

So...proving that man can't create a fly proves God did? Weird theory. Pretty sure no-one ever claimed humans invented life.

Yes,and for sure man could not creat a fly and WILL NOT creat a fly, believe that or not

Is there something created it self?
because that's the opposite weirdest theory.

 

[psychoslice]

All you are trying to do in this thread is prove that a magic man in the sky created and creates everything, it ain't going to work, for the simple reason that there is no god,

 

[Godobeyer]

All you are trying to do in this thread is prove that a magic man in the sky created and creates everything, it ain't going to work, for the simple reason that there is no god,

There is no man in sky.
It's proven to me.that intellegence of humanity can't reach all knowladge of Creator. (what you called "nature")

Yes ,There is a Creator,who design your body , and design all others creatures (male and female, there is no third gender) you did not design your body in first place,and you have just limited body and limited time to live.

 

[Godobeyer]

Let me ask a slightly different question: there are many deadly, often ghastly parasites in the world, that cause untold suffering, misery and death to millions upon millions of people, including our tiniest and most helpless infants. If you could create even one of these – would you? God did, according to you, and not just one but all of them!

I made thread about before

check out :
http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/why-god-allowed-evil-deeds-crimes-genocide-etc.190432/

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Yes,and for sure man could not creat a fly and WILL NOT creat a fly, believe that or not

Is there something created it self?
because that's the opposite weirdest theory.

Buggered if I know who created life. Pretty sure it wasn't cows. Does that prove anything?

 

[Godobeyer]

Buggered if I know who created life. Pretty sure it wasn't cows. Does that prove anything?

Considering that you atheist.that's close to "I don't know" meaning!

Saying "I don't know" that's prove there is progression,I mean it's better than saying it's created by if-self

 

[Jumi]

everthing complex had designer,and had starter, it's impossible that it's has inside designer.

No one can prove that. It's just what people choose to believe in, if they want to.

If they did, then who designer the designer? There needs to be endless amount of designers of designers if that rule is true.

 

[Godobeyer]

No one can prove that. It's just what people choose to believe in, if they want to.

If they did, then who designer the designer? There needs to be endless amount of designers of designers if that rule is true.

That's prove also humans had limited mind ability and curiousty.

If you are convinced that you (and all creatures) are designed,so evidently that's prove there was a designer.


For my opinion it's not our business or necessary to know who design the designer

and it's not fair/necssary to used this "curiousity question" to reject that we are designed.

Why suppose humans tells cars that "Humans made them" ?

 

[Jumi]

That's prove also humans had limited mind ability and curiousty.

Some people are more curious than others and investigate both what is known and seek to improve human understanding. Others are content to simple life.

If you are convinced that you (and all creatures) are designed,so evidently that's prove there was a designer.

But if everything complex has a designer then that one needs a designer too. Surely nothing comes from nothing?

For my opinion it's not our business or necessary to know who design the designer

Because we don't know there are designers who design organic life. Whether it's flies, bananas, humans, viruses. What we know is that life develops once it's here. We are getting close to being able to design bacteria, viruses from scratch with science.

and it's not fair/necssary to used this "curiousity question" to reject that we are designed.

There's no reason to believe otherwise for me.

 

[Godobeyer]

Some people are more curious than others and investigate both what is known and seek to improve human understanding. Others are content to simple life.

Whatever curiousity don't suppose to be rejection of facts we know.

We know that we are designed and all species are too....etc.

But if everything complex has a designer then that one needs a designer too. Surely nothing comes from nothing?

Everything had designers all refer to original one Creator.

Because we don't know there are designers who design organic life. Whether it's flies, bananas, humans, viruses. What we know is that life develops once it's here. We are getting close to being able to design bacteria, viruses from scratch with science.

editing not equal to designing/creating.
the fact that If ALL humans gathered to creat a fly,they will COULD NOT , because that knowledge not belong to humans.

There's no reason to believe otherwise for me.

I know how you think.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Yes,and for sure man could not creat a fly and WILL NOT creat a fly, believe that or not

Is there something created it self?
because that's the opposite weirdest theory.

There is, actually, quite large difference between evolution not happening and complete ignorance about evolution. Ignorance doesn't equate to it not being true.