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Could you creat a fly ?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
"Everything designed has a designer" is true in the same way as "everything hairy has hair". It doesn't prove anything about things which are not hairy in fact being hairy.
Not work in that way , so everything wet has weter :D
funny exemple anyway!
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
At least you are convinced that you did not creat your self. (something else did) :)

That's not exactly true. Hard to fully discount solipsism. But in practical terms, sure. Like every other atheist I ever met. Hence my confusion with regards to the point you're trying to make.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That's not exactly true. Hard to fully discount solipsism. But in practical terms, sure. Like every other atheist I ever met. Hence my confusion with regards to the point you're trying to make.
There is no single human said I design my self.
that's my point.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Lose by atheists,which I disagree with evidenlly.
It does not take being an atheist to acknowledge that human beings - and life generally - shows far more than a fair bit of evidence of being accidental in origin, though.

I think I settled that matter personally when I learned of hidrocephalie. I always wonder how believers in a creator God explain it. Spiritists have an explanation, but it is immoral and unworthy.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It does not take being an atheist to acknowledge that human beings - and life generally - shows far more than a fair bit of evidence of being accidental in origin, though.

I think I settled that matter personally when I learned of hidrocephalie. I always wonder how believers in a creator God explain it. Spiritists have an explanation, but it is immoral and unworthy.
So you claim that atheist are over hand than theists in issue of acknowledge the human being and original of life ...etc ?

Without spirit you are death, that's why humans could not revive the dead people. (total body and mind death)
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
So you claim that atheist are over hand than theists in issue of acknowledge the human being and original of life ...etc ?

Not really. Instead, some theists cling to superstition over biological knowledge to the point of misrepresenting it.

Without spirit you are death, that's why humans could not revive the dead people. (total body and mind death)
There is really nothing to support such a claim.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
There is no single human said I design my self.
that's my point.

If that's actually true....
If your point is that no human has ever said they designed themselves...

...well then, your thread is a stunning success. I'm thinking of starting a similar thread. Something like 'Proof human beings dont have wings'.

I can only hope to put forth as compelling a case.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
If that's actually true....
If your point is that no human has ever said they designed themselves...

...well then, your thread is a stunning success. I'm thinking of starting a similar thread. Something like 'Proof human beings dont have wings'.

I can only hope to put forth as compelling a case.
Your example not same as claim that you designed your body!
No one will prove that.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Could create a self replicating structure that could evolve into a fly. Released into the environment this would take a long time, with selective breeding it would be considerably faster.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
You think someone will prove we are born with wings? No...seems unlikely. Also, no-one ever claimed it.

Same as your point about humans not designing life.
Not relative to my point.
I was talking about what happened you talking about not happened.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Not relative to my point.
I was talking about what happened you talking about not happened.

You said a human can't create a fly. Which hasnt happened. And no-one ever claimed.

Dont blame me if your forced hypothetical to prove your prejudice turns out to be poor. Think of a more intelligent way to make your case instead.
 
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