Counterfeit Twenties

[Nimos]

I say.....it was the crowd that killed Floyd

he would have been in the car a lot quicker
if the cops didn't have to be wary of their surroundings

really.....

don't point your fingers at cops and yell at them

it's very distracting

and you could end up on your face for interfering

Seriously? The crowd killed him?

If a group of policemen is unable to make an arrest, when there is a crowd watching, which based on video doesn't appear the least hostile, without it turning into a murder, then the education of the policemen in the US is so bad, that they would be better of just hiring some North Korean ones instead.

Don't you think policemen are trained to handle these types of situations? and if not then that is a problem, but it is still murder, whether they are poorly trained or not.

 

[Thief]

Seriously? The crowd killed him?

If a group of policemen is unable to make an arrest, when there is a crowd watching, which based on video doesn't appear the least hostile, without it turning into a murder, then the education of the policemen in the US is so bad, that they would be better of just hiring some North Korean ones instead.

Don't you think policemen are trained to handle these types of situations? and if not then that is a problem, but it is still murder, whether they are poorly trained or not.

if were me on the ground.....my last words would be....

get back!
I'm going to jail

and hopefully the crowd would hear that
and back off

you did read post#39?

 

[Thief]

It is. But until trial, it is an "alleged" crime. The question arises as to how he came by the bill. By accident or on purpose. But regardless of that, passing a counterfeit bill is not a crime that carries the death penalty. And on top of that, the police officers' job is not to be judge, jury, and executioner, but rather to bring the individual in. The man was in handcuffs for crying out loud.

and all the crying in the world won't help

the crowd was too close
and cops don't let go

Floyd would have been in the car quicker
without the crowd

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Has there been any information regarding the fact of passing counterfeit money? Was it really counterfeit? I have not heard. Passing a counterfeit bill is not necessarily a willful act with knowledge and intent. For all I know, I may have used counterfeit money at some time in my life. How would I know?

 

[Thief]

and I can't help but wonder.....
everyone wants to call it an execution

seems to me....
even stupid cops would pick a better location than a street scene

 

[Dan From Smithville]

and then the crowd came pointing fingers and distracting the police

who then stand in place to make sure the crowd does not advance

and Floyd was held down too long

I say......the crowd killed Floyd

they should have stayed back
and Floyd would have been in the car....soooooooo much quicker

and not dead

People are arrested in crowds and without death. How do you account for that?

 

[Stevicus]

and then the crowd came pointing fingers and distracting the police

who then stand in place to make sure the crowd does not advance

and Floyd was held down too long

I say......the crowd killed Floyd

they should have stayed back
and Floyd would have been in the car....soooooooo much quicker

and not dead

The crowd didn't kill Floyd. There was plenty of room for the arresting officer to get up, let Floyd up, and then put him in the vehicle. There was no indication that the crowd were interfering in any way, but should they have interfered? I raised an ethical question related to that several days ago (A question of ethics and legality). Perhaps you might care to comment.

 

[Thief]

Has there been any information regarding the fact of passing counterfeit money? Was it really counterfeit? I have not heard. Passing a counterfeit bill is not necessarily a willful act with knowledge and intent. For all I know, I may have used counterfeit money at some time in my life. How would I know?

it must be more common that most people think
ALL of my twenties are looked at when I buy something

so far so good

but if someone ever wants to arrest me for a bad bill

I will tell the crowd
no problem I got this
STAY BACK

 

[Thief]

The crowd didn't kill Floyd. There was plenty of room for the arresting officer to get up, let Floyd up, and then put him in the vehicle. There was no indication that the crowd were interfering in any way, but should they have interfered? I raised an ethical question related to that several days ago (A question of ethics and legality). Perhaps you might care to comment.

read this thread

 

[Shadow Wolf]

does anyone realize?
Floyd was being arrested for passing fake twenties

isn't that a crime?

Does anyone realize the popo is not the judge, he is not the jurry, and he is not the executioner?

 

[David1967]

when resisting arrest.....anything can happen

Any questions regarding use of force when making an arrest, I would be happy to help. This case is clear. The officer deliberately placed his knee upon the handcuffed and immobilized mans neck, successfully cutting off the blood flow to his brain for nearly ten minutes while he begged for his life. In police training (at least what I went through over a decade ago) we were warned by the DT instructor not to use a sleeper hold, which is basically what this officer did with his knee by placing it on the mans carotid artery. Sorry, but this officers conduct is indefensible IMHO.

 

[Thief]

and I can't help but wonder.....
everyone wants to call it an execution

seems to me....
even stupid cops would pick a better location than a street scene

Does anyone realize the popo is not the judge, he is not the jurry, and he is not the executioner?

so were you agreeing with me?

 

[Nimos]

if were me on the ground.....my last words would be....

get back!
I'm going to jail

and hopefully the crowd would hear that
and back off

you did read post#39?

But it weren't you on the ground, it was a black man, which weren't hostile.... saying over and over again that he couldn't breath, so it doesn't really matter what you would do, we already know how it ended in this case.

The crowd clearly heard him saying that he couldn't breath so surely the policeman could as well.

I have no clue why post #39 is relevant? Were the guy a martial artist? Most people that the police interact with is not, so why is that relevant?

Besides that a person is innocent until proven guilty, so at the time of arrest he was only a suspect to a crime that is not really that severe and he was already pacified.

 

[Thief]

Any questions regarding use of force when making an arrest, I would be happy to help. This case is clear. The officer deliberately placed his knee upon the handcuffed and immobilized mans neck, successfully cutting off the blood flow to his brain for nearly ten minutes while he begged for his life. In police training (at least what I went through over a decade ago) we were warned by the DT instructor not to use a sleeper hold, which is basically what this officer did with his knee by placing it on the mans carotid artery. Sorry, but this officers conduct is indefensible IMHO.

I can't agree
the artery is found next the throat......front side

Floyd had been drinking.....and smoking.....
and strongly stressed

I would like to hear autospy

 

[Thief]

I have no clue why post #39 is relevant?

if you didn't catch the relevance......oooops

 

[PureX]

does anyone realize?
Floyd was being arrested for passing fake twenties

isn't that a crime?

You have likely passed counterfeit $20s and never knew it. It's only a crime if it can be proven that you knew the bill was counterfeit.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

so were you agreeing with me?

No. Floyd broke the law. He was arrested. What Piggly Wiggly did happened after Floyd was already in cuffs and not resisting. Legally, it is not permissible that anything go (on paper, anyways).
What Piggly Wiggly did was not arrest but execute and murder.

 

[Thief]

But it weren't you on the ground, it was a black man, which weren't hostile.... saying over and over again that he couldn't breath, so it doesn't really matter what you would do, we already know how it ended in this case.

The crowd clearly heard him saying that he couldn't breath so surely the policeman could as well.

I have no clue why post #39 is relevant? Were the guy a martial artist? Most people that the police interact with is not, so why is that relevant?

Besides that a person is innocent until proven guilty, so at the time of arrest he was only a suspect to a crime that is not really that severe and he was already pacified.

and the police were held in place by the crowd around them

they won't yield position

the crowd was at fault

 

[Nimos]

if you didn't catch the relevance......oooops

You asked me if I read post #39 in the last reply, so assumed you thought it was relevant?

 

[Thief]

No. Floyd broke the law. He was arrested. What Piggly Wiggly did happened after Floyd was already in cuffs and not resisting. Legally, it is not permissible that anything go (on paper, anyways).
What Piggly Wiggly did was not arrest but execute and murder.

and the cops deliberately chose a public street for that purpose?