Countries banning of kosher meats are forcing "expulsion" of Jews

[The Kilted Heathen]

Are those animals placed under human care? More often than not, no. You're bringing nothing of worth to this discussion. Also learn to edit your posts; it is a simple forum feature. And while a gun may be more humane (sometimes, not always), as explained this poses significant risks to society. Please read before throwing out what has already been addressed.

 

[We Never Know]

Are those animals placed under human care? More often than not, no. You're bringing nothing of worth to this discussion. Also learn to edit your posts; it is a simple forum feature. And while a gun may be more humane (sometimes, not always), as explained this poses significant risks to society. Please read before throwing out what has already been addressed.

So now your moving it to animals under human care. You mean those animals we feed, vaccinate, raise, protect, only to slaughter? How is that humane at all?
Those other animals we don't have anything invested in, why kill them at all?

 

[We Never Know]

Are those animals placed under human care? More often than not, no. You're bringing nothing of worth to this discussion. Also learn to edit your posts; it is a simple forum feature. And while a gun may be more humane (sometimes, not always), as explained this poses significant risks to society. Please read before throwing out what has already been addressed.

Oh darn. Another grammar whiner. Get over it.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

So now your moving it to animals under human care.

Re-read (or this time actually read) my first post to you. This was always the position.

Oh darn. Another grammar whiner. Get over it.

Try someone who doesn't want to read through five posts of meaningless juvenile nonsense because you can't compose your thoughts in a single post.

 

[Shad]

This morality that you embrace, that suggests slaughtering an animal has to be done a certain way to be right, may not be as obvious to many as it seems to be to you.

Have you hunted before? Do note that slaughtering standards are drastically different for hunters. Stun-guns (bolt) are not even considered. Slitting throats and double-tapping are normal. Few people are complaining about that as they are not directed to care.

 

[Cooky]

Have you hunted before? Do note that slaughtering standards are drastically different for hunters. Stun-guns (bolt) are not even considered. Slitting throats and double-tapping are normal. Few people are complaining about that as they are not directed to care.

It really shows how shallow this initiative is, because theyre willing to make exceptions for hunters, but not for certain religious groups.

...the inconsistency shows something... strange..? Even illogical..?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Only the reasons for hunters versus livestock had been explained. You just don't want to acknowledge it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

We are not talking about "innocents" here. Your claim is that it is just as humane. I have seen videos of halal butcher and even some kosher butcher that tells me that is not the case. You would think that to defend their practice some would make clear videos of kosher butchery since videos to the contrary exist.

You've seen videos of abuses, not videos of how it is followed as prescribed. Such do not have videos online.

 

[Cooky]

Only the reasons for hunters versus livestock had been explained. You just don't want to acknowledge it.

The explanation was illogical.

...As if a bullet blown straight through the stomach and out the *** is going to be a humane death. Not every hunter is going to peirce the heart every shot.

 

[Cooky]

You might as well rip a deers leg off and beat him to death with his own hoof.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You've seen videos of abuses, not videos of how it is followed as prescribed. Such do not have videos online.

And why is that ? Is it because in reality they do not exist?

Do you think that the lawmakers did not investigate kosher and halal slaughterhouses? If people want to defend this practice openness if the only weapon that they have.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The explanation was illogical.

...As if a bullet blown straight through the stomach and out the *** is going to be a humane death. Not every hunter is going to peirce the heart every shot.

That is true. But again we are talking about relative humane deaths. Hunting is almost always far less traumatic than predation and since man removed the predators we need to take their place to have healthy populations. No hunting at all is even less humane. The populations are prone to diseases that not only affect them but can affect domestic animals as well.

 

[Cooky]

That is true. But again we are talking about relative humane deaths. Hunting is almost always far less traumatic than predation and since man removed the predators we need to take their place to have healthy populations. No hunting at all is even less humane. The populations are prone to diseases that not only affect them but can affect domestic animals as well.

Here we agree.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

So then my question to you, landon, is repeated: would you rather have hunters or wolves?

 

[Cooky]

So then my question to you, landon, is repeated: would you rather have hunters or wolves?

Both. We can introduce animals from all over the world to the California environment, and create a multi-cultural animal kingdom. Per se. And shoot them all during the proper 'season'.

...I want some Red Panda and sloth hamburgers.

 

[Cooky]

I have had a rabbit burger once. It went good with aged cheese.

 

[Cooky]

You know, most people dont actually know this, but "bearcats" (binturongs) naturally produce the aroma of popcorn. Thats a fact.

...I wonder if they taste like popcorn too.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

...Sure.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

And why is that ? Is it because in reality they do not exist?

Do you think that the lawmakers did not investigate kosher and halal slaughterhouses? If people want to defend this practice openness if the only weapon that they have.

Because the death of an animal, however necessary, is a sad thing. And without scandal, there really is no motivation for these other groups to do clandestine video's.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Because the death of an animal, however necessary, is a sad thing. And without scandal, there really is no motivation for these other groups to do clandestine video's.

That is a weak excuse. Your side claims that it is painless, but yet won't show clear videos of the process. That should tell you something.

Why the objection to stunning? It should be viewed as part of the kosher slaughter process.