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Creation and Evolution

garrydons

Member
Which do you think is correct, Creation or Evolution. Religion especially Judaism and Christianity teaches that man and everything in this world is created by a Super natural Being, a Creator called God. While evolution teaches that everything just evolve without the benefit of a Creator. Your answer is very much appreciated.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I am a theistic evolutionist. So I believe in evolution AND God.
 

Heathen Hammer

Nope, you're still wrong
Also a theistic evolutionist. I 'believe' in evolution because it's an explanation from evidence, and supported by more evidence. Also, my religion's origin tale is compatible, metaphorically speaking, with most scientific theories which will likely be mentioned in a thread such as this.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Just what do you mean: You believe in evolution and you also believe in God? kindly explain.

There are actually a lot of theists who also believe in evolution. It's becoming more and more common.

It just means that the story changes. Instead of God creating everything like it is today, he created the universe as a slow progression. He created it so that things change over time, they become more complex in a natural way.

I started to accept evolution when I began learning about it properly. Usually when a person takes the time to learn about it, they begin to accept it.
 

garrydons

Member
to be specific, if we believe in evolution, what is the origin of everything? it just evolve? what is its source? Just from nowhere? where did life first came from?
 

fishy

Active Member
to be specific, if we believe in evolution, what is the origin of everything? it just evolve? what is its source? Just from nowhere? where did life first came from?
Absolutely nothing to do with evolution.
You either believe in creation or you understand evolution.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
Which do you think is correct, Creation or Evolution.
In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter what you or I think? What can be demonstrated and what is ultimately true is the key factor.

Religion especially Judaism and Christianity teaches that man and everything in this world is created by a Super natural Being, a Creator called God.
That isn't all there is to concepts of creation though. There are (or have been) countless religions or philosophies that have proposed some form of intelligently guided creation of development of the universe or the life within it.

While evolution teaches that everything just evolve without the benefit of a Creator.
I think that is slightly misleading. Evolution describes they process by which species develop in to other species. It doesn't directly refer to origins of life nor does it state anything about the existence of non-existence of a creator.

Your answer is very much appreciated.
For what it's worth, I don't feel the existence of any kind of creator being has supporting evidence and some of the specifically proposed ones directly contradict what evidence there is.

From my layman's point of view, evolutionary theories seem to be a valid explanation for the evidence of the variety and development of life and can be considered correct pending any new evidence to the contrary.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Which do you think is correct, Creation or Evolution. Religion especially Judaism and Christianity teaches that man and everything in this world is created by a Super natural Being, a Creator called God. While evolution teaches that everything just evolve without the benefit of a Creator. Your answer is very much appreciated.

As a Christian, I believe what the Bible says is true; that "God created the heavens and the earth." (Genesis 1:1) Thereafter, God created plants, fish, birds, and animals in great variety, but always "according to their kinds."
Evolution cannot explain how life on Earth began and has given up trying. It is, therefore, a theory without a foundation, in my opinion.
 

fishy

Active Member
As a Christian, I believe what the Bible says is true; that "God created the heavens and the earth." (Genesis 1:1) Thereafter, God created plants, fish, birds, and animals in great variety, but always "according to their kinds."
Evolution cannot explain how life on Earth began and has given up trying. It is, therefore, a theory without a foundation, in my opinion.
Once again, evolution has nothing at all to say about how life began on Earth or anywhere else for that matter. Evolution doesn't even address the existence of life on another planet, much less how such life "evolved", if indeed it did.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Which do you think is correct, Creation or Evolution.
As pointed earlier, these are two different topics, evolution says very little about the origin of life, its focus of study is the evolution of life.
Religion especially Judaism and Christianity teaches that man and everything in this world is created by a Super natural Being, a Creator called God.
It's hard to generalize that this is what Judaism teaches based on several Biblical or extra Biblical passages and excluding the progress Judaism has made in light of the scientific development of previous centuries and decades. Judaism is not static, and evolution is factually accepted today, its only natural for Jews to acknowledge it.
While evolution teaches that everything just evolve without the benefit of a Creator. Your answer is very much appreciated.
Again, I think you need to read what is it exactly that the study of evolution focuses on.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Which do you think is correct, Creation or Evolution. Religion especially Judaism and Christianity teaches that man and everything in this world is created by a Super natural Being, a Creator called God. While evolution teaches that everything just evolve without the benefit of a Creator. Your answer is very much appreciated.

The theory of evolution and the concept of god are not mutually exclusive. Evolution only conflicts with literal interpretations of creation myths, which are not a prerequisite for belief in a god.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Evolution cannot explain how life on Earth began and has given up trying.
The theory of gravity hasn't explained how life began either. Does that mean gravity is false? The origin of life isn't what evolution is about. If you refuse to learn about evolution, then you have no business attempting to debate it.

It is, therefore, a theory without a foundation, in my opinion.

Except that huge, insurmountable mountain of evidence and the fact that it's observable in nature.

So you just keep wallowing in that shameful pit of willful ignorance and self-deceit.
 

sweetie

Member
Which do you think is correct, Creation or Evolution. Religion especially Judaism and Christianity teaches that man and everything in this world is created by a Super natural Being, a Creator called God. While evolution teaches that everything just evolve without the benefit of a Creator. Your answer is very much appreciated.

The spirit soul is a radioactive atomic particle which existed before creation and evolved after creation into different material forms e.g aquatic, bird, animal after thousands of years emitting alpha, beta and gamma rays. This Alpha & Omega theory supports reincarnation while negating Darwin`s theory of Evolution.

An example is the natural decay chain of 238U, which is as follows:
decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 4.5 billion years to thorium-234
which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 24 days to protactinium-234
which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 1.2 minutes to uranium-234
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 240 thousand years to thorium-230
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 77 thousand years to radium-226
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 1.6 thousand years to radon-222
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 3.8 days to polonium-218
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 3.1 minutes to lead-214
which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 27 minutes to bismuth-214
which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 20 minutes to polonium-214
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 160 microseconds to lead-210
which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 22 years to bismuth-210
which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 5 days to polonium-210
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 140 days to lead-206, which is a stable nuclide.



To understand this theory of the alpha & omega. What if a 238U decays, through alpha-emission with a half life of 4.5 billion years to a bird (thorium-234 ) which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 24 days to an earthworm (protactinium-234 )which decays, through beta-emission, with a half-life of 1.2 minutes to a bacteria ( uranium-234)
which decays, through alpha-emission, with a half-life of 240 thousand years to a shark ( thorium-230) so on so forth..
 

garrydons

Member
Good day thanks for your diverse opinions regarding the subject matter on hand. Basing on some given statements, am I right to say that evolution is the process of creation? Or they are just separate issues?
 
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