Creation vs evolution

[Faithofchristian]

One fact to Refute evolution.

For those who believe in the theory of evolution.
Why did evolution have to be tested, to know whether it's true or not.

To test something, that means it's not true, until it's tested to show it's true.

This why Christians don't have to test the bible all because Christians already know the Bible is true

Where as evolution had to be tested, to find if it's true or not true.

That's like going to take a test, you take a test to show if your qualified or not.

Therefore to test the theory of evolution, is to see if it's qualified or not.

That means evolution wasn't qualified, from the start.until it took the test.

Where as the bible did not have to take any test to be qualified, The bible was qualified right from the start.


Therefore Christians do not have to test the bible to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bible is qualified.

 

[Altfish]

It is called science!!

It wasn't written in an ancient book.
In simple terms Evolution was developed as an explanation of the natural world. Ideas are moulded into hypothesis, the hypothesis are tested and if found wanting changed.
Eventually, when it looks like it is the correct explanation it becomes a Theory.

BUT, science continues to test, it always will. There is a remote chance evolution will be disproved...but I'm not holding my breath.
The Bible has already been disproven.

 

[Subduction Zone]

To add onto Altfish's post. You can't know something if you do not test it. That is the difference between knowledge and belief. We know that evolution is almost certainly true since it has been tested so many times and passed the tests. We know that the Bible is false because it has been tested and failed those tests.

 

[Faithofchristian]

It is called science!!

It wasn't written in an ancient book.
In simple terms Evolution was developed as an explanation of the natural world. Ideas are moulded into hypothesis, the hypothesis are tested and if found wanting changed.
Eventually, when it looks like it is the correct explanation it becomes a Theory.

BUT, science continues to test, it always will. There is a remote chance evolution will be disproved...but I'm not holding my breath.
The Bible has already been disproven.

The bible has not been disproven by no Christians.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

One fact to Refute evolution.

For those who believe in the theory of evolution.
Why did evolution have to be tested, to know whether it's true or not.

To test something, that means it's not true, until it's tested to show it's true.

This why Christians don't have to test the bible all because Christians already know the Bible is true

Where as evolution had to be tested, to find if it's true or not true.

That's like going to take a test, you take a test to show if your qualified or not.

Therefore to test the theory of evolution, is to see if it's qualified or not.

That means evolution wasn't qualified, from the start.until it took the test.

Where as the bible did not have to take any test to be qualified, The bible was qualified right from the start.

Therefore Christians do not have to test the bible to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bible is qualified.

Tell me what is wrong with my reasoning in the following paragraphs. . .

1. Therefore Muslims do not have to test the Quran to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Quran is qualified.

2. Therefore Hindus do not have to test the Bhagavad Gita to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bhagavad Gita is qualified.

3. Therefore Scientologists do not have to test Dianetics to see if it's qualified, We already know that Diantetics is qualified.

Well?

 

[Subduction Zone]

The bible has not been disproven by no Christians.

I disagree, not all Christians are ignorant. Or cowards. Why would you make such a claim against those in your own faith?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Tell me what is wrong with my reasoning in the following paragraphs. . .

1. Therefore Muslims do not have to test the Quran to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Quran is qualified.

2. Therefore Hindus do not have to test the Bhagavad Gita to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bhagavad Gita is qualified.

3. Therefore Scientologists do not have to test Dianetics to see if it's qualified, We already know that Diantetics is qualified.

Well?

My question to you, is where are you going, the Thread is about Christians and evolutionist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Tell me what is wrong with my reasoning in the following paragraphs. . .

1. Therefore Muslims do not have to test the Quran to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Quran is qualified.

2. Therefore Hindus do not have to test the Bhagavad Gita to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bhagavad Gita is qualified.

3. Therefore Scientologists do not have to test Dianetics to see if it's qualified, We already know that Diantetics is qualified.

Well?

Hah! Trick question. We know that they are all wrong because Pastafarianism is the one that is qualified.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My question to you, is where are you going, the Thread is about Christians and evolutionist.

It was an answer. Try to answer the questions in his post. You might learn something.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I disagree, not all Christians are ignorant. Or cowards. Why would you make such a claim against those in your own faith?

Look, if a Christian stood out against the bible, then they are not a true Christian.

That's like saying, a person who is a evolutionist, would stand out against evolution.
Then they would not be a true evolutionist.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Hah! Trick question. We know that they are all wrong because Pastafarianism is the one that is qualified.

That all typical of evolutionist always trying to change the Direction of a boat in a flooded river going the opposite direction in which they are going.

What this means in simple terms, is that evolutionist when caught will try to change the subject at hand. Into something else.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look, if a Christian stood out against the bible, then they are not a true Christian.

That's like saying, a person who is a evolutionist, would stand out against evolution.
Then they would not be a true evolutionist.

You are in no position to claim whether someone is a true Christian or not. Other Christians could say that you are not a "true Christian" since you denigrate the faith to the same level as Voodoo.

And why do you use the bogus term "evolutionist"? There is no such thing. You appear to be making false accusations against others again. Remember, others do not have your flaw of faith. Many others use logic and reason to come to their conclusions. Faith actually puts down beliefs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That all typical of evolutionist always trying to change the Direction of a boat in a flooded river going the opposite direction in which they are going.

What this means in simple terms, is that evolutionist when caught will try to change the subject at hand. Into something else.

No one is trying to change directions. We are trying to get you to understand basic logic.

 

[Estro Felino]

What Catholicism officially says is that " the Bible is not a science book. If people are interested in the scientific truth, they should ask scientists."

Cardinal G. Pell

 

[Kuzcotopia]

My question to you, is where are you going, the Thread is about Christians and evolutionist.

Do you believe any of those three statements are true? Why or why not?

I promise its worth it.

 

[Polymath257]

The bible has not been disproven by no Christians.

Actually, the first ones to do so *were* Christian.

We test ideas to see to what extent they are true. That is how science works: try to explain something and *test* that idea by *attempting* to prove it wrong. Those ideas that survive are kept.

You see, humans can be wrong. We come up with ideas that don't completely work. So we *test* to see what does and what does not work. That is how we acquire knowledge.

As for the Bible, the first people to realize the discrepancy between the Biblical time scale and the time scale of reality were Christians trying to support the Bible and verify what is says.

 

[shunyadragon]

One fact to Refute evolution.

For those who believe in the theory of evolution.
Why did evolution have to be tested, to know whether it's true or not.

. . . because all science is tested, verified and falsified by scientific methods. the science of evolution is science.

To test something, that means it's not true, until it's tested to show it's true.

Very confusing, and does not reflect the methods of science, and how theories and hypothesis are verified and falsified.

This why Christians don't have to test the bible all because Christians already know the Bible is true.

The Truth of the Bible cannot be objectively tested. It is a matter of belief to claim that they know it is true..

Where as evolution had to be tested, to find if it's true or not true.

All science is tested. Evolution is a tested science that is verified beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's like going to take a test, you take a test to show if your qualified or not.

You just failed the basic test of high school science, and not qualified to remotely understand science.

Therefore to test the theory of evolution, is to see if it's qualified or not.

That means evolution wasn't qualified, from the start.until it took the test.

Evolution does not take tests. You need to go back to school and get the basics of science. You flunked!

Where as the bible did not have to take any test to be qualified, The bible was qualified right from the start.

Therefore Christians do not have to test the bible to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bible is qualified.

Based on what? All I see here is claim it is true based on faith.

 

[Polymath257]

Look, if a Christian stood out against the bible, then they are not a true Christian.

That's like saying, a person who is a evolutionist, would stand out against evolution.
Then they would not be a true evolutionist.

And a *scientist* should stand out for the *evidence* and follow where that evidence leads.The *only* reason a scientists believes in evolution is because the evidence shows it to have happened.

The key is to be skeptical of *all* ideas and test *all* of them thoroughly. Those that pass the test of conforming to the evidence are kept. And yes, those tests are designed to show the ideas wrong if they are.

 

[SalixIncendium]

...Christians already know the Bible is true

How?

Where as the bible did not have to take any test to be qualified, The bible was qualified right from the start.

By whom?

Therefore Christians do not have to test the bible to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bible is qualified.

Again, how?

What led you believe in Christ? Surely you weren't born believing in Him. Somewhere along the line, there must have been events in your life that you tested (perhaps without consciously doing so) which led to your belief in His existence and His divinity...

...unless you are saying that at some point someone stuck a book in your hand and said, "Here, believe in the words of this book blindly, because the words in the book tell you to. Even if others tell you are not true, they are wrong, because the words in this book say they are."

 

[sayak83]

One fact to Refute evolution.

For those who believe in the theory of evolution.
Why did evolution have to be tested, to know whether it's true or not.

To test something, that means it's not true, until it's tested to show it's true.

This why Christians don't have to test the bible all because Christians already know the Bible is true

Where as evolution had to be tested, to find if it's true or not true.

That's like going to take a test, you take a test to show if your qualified or not.

Therefore to test the theory of evolution, is to see if it's qualified or not.

That means evolution wasn't qualified, from the start.until it took the test.

Where as the bible did not have to take any test to be qualified, The bible was qualified right from the start.


Therefore Christians do not have to test the bible to see if it's qualified, We already know that the Bible is qualified.