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"Creationists upset about Carnival Cruises’ 'Come Back To The Sea' ad"

Skwim

Veteran Member
"With its new “Come Back To The Sea” Super Bowl ads, Carnival Cruises has angered creationists, who believe the company is promoting evolution in its invitation to come devolve into daiquiri-numbed blobs who simply drift about looking for more food, like the mushy, single-minded organisms it says we came from.

The issue stems from the ad’s voiceover, which borrows a speech that President John F. Kennedy made before the 1962 America’s Cup


Carnival used this speech to advertise its cruise vacations, which finally reunite man with the sea by putting a giant luxury hotel in between them, to let the sea know how much better he is now.

Many chimed in to let Carnival know they weren’t happy, blaming the company’s plunge into eternal darkness on everything from their obvious atheist agenda to turning their back on the light, the way that is.​

A list of whining comments from evophobes follows. e.g.

"We came from the sea..."
What kind of evolution crap is THAT, #Carnival?​

Then . . . .

"Meanwhile, Ken Ham . . .blasted Carnival for its 'ludicrous' beliefs."
source

"It’s sad—but true—the world’s largest cruise line company with its more than 20 cruise ships blatantly used evolution to advertise its cruises at the Super Bowl this evening. CNN reported the following:"​

And what's a Ken Ham screed without dipping into his well of false arguments against evolution and coming up with an allusion to abiogenesis

"Except for the fact that it’s a spiritual issue because of our sin, it’s mind-boggling to think that intelligent people can actually believe life (and the whole universe) came about by accident! Ludicrous!"
source
Ham treats his followers as back country rubes at a carnival sideshow, counting on their ignorance and blind acceptance to sell his swamp water cure-all. Nothing new, of course, but always disheartening.
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
"With its new “Come Back To The Sea” Super Bowl ads, Carnival Cruises has angered creationists, who believe the company is promoting evolution in its invitation to come devolve into daiquiri-numbed blobs who simply drift about looking for more food, like the mushy, single-minded organisms it says we came from.

The issue stems from the ad’s voiceover, which borrows a speech that President John F. Kennedy made before the 1962 America’s Cup

Carnival used this speech to advertise its cruise vacations, which finally reunite man with the sea by putting a giant luxury hotel in between them, to let the sea know how much better he is now.

Many chimed in to let Carnival know they weren’t happy, blaming the company’s plunge into eternal darkness on everything from their obvious atheist agenda to turning their back on the light, the way that is.​
A list of whining comments from evophobes follows. e.g.

"We came from the sea..."
What kind of evolution crap is THAT, #Carnival?​

Then . . . .

"Meanwhile, Ken Ham . . .blasted Carnival for its 'ludicrous' beliefs."
source

"It’s sad—but true—the world’s largest cruise line company with its more than 20 cruise ships blatantly used evolution to advertise its cruises at the Super Bowl this evening. CNN reported the following:"​

And what's a Ken Ham screed without dipping into his well of false arguments against evolution and coming up with an allusion to abiogenesis

"Except for the fact that it’s a spiritual issue because of our sin, it’s mind-boggling to think that intelligent people can actually believe life (and the whole universe) came about by accident! Ludicrous!"
source
Ham treats his followers as back country rubes at a carnival sideshow, counting on their ignorance and blind acceptance to sell his swamp water cure-all. Nothing new, of course, but always disheartening.

Ken Ham, isn't that the dude that Bill Nye the Science Guy took to school during that creationism vs evolution debate?
 

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Ken Ham, isn't that the dude that Bill Nye the Science Guy took to school during that creationism vs evolution debate?
The taking of or being taken to school is a most subjective opinion, dear friend. :p

Personally, while I think Nye did have the upper hand in the end Ham gave me a lot to think about, especially the difference between the kind of science we can test in the lab before our eyes, and the kind of science that looks into history like a detective and puts pieces together, like fossils etc.
 

averageJOE

zombie
The taking of or being taken to school is a most subjective opinion, dear friend. :p

Personally, while I think Nye did have the upper hand in the end Ham gave me a lot to think about, especially the difference between the kind of science we can test in the lab before our eyes, and the kind of science that looks into history like a detective and puts pieces together, like fossils etc.
Don't. Just, don't do that to yourself.
 

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Don't. Just, don't do that to yourself.
It's so much easier though! :p

When I test something in the lab, it happens right before my eyes, it's great! When someone starts telling me "oh well we lined up these fossils and found startling similarities in genes here and here" that's great but, it just doesn't seem the same as testing something in front of my eyes in a lab.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
especially the difference between the kind of science we can test in the lab before our eyes, and the kind of science that looks into history like a detective and puts pieces together, like fossils etc.

We don't see it that way, he only used pseudo science, combined with severe ignorance and faulty reasoning, to attack credible science.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
The taking of or being taken to school is a most subjective opinion, dear friend. :p
You must not have watched the debate. All Ham got out f it was the status of sharing the stage with Nye ... an opportunity that I do not think Nye should have provided for him.
Personally, while I think Nye did have the upper hand in the end Ham gave me a lot to think about, especially the difference between the kind of science we can test in the lab before our eyes, and the kind of science that looks into history like a detective and puts pieces together, like fossils etc.
That was the worst piece of obfuscatory crap in his entire truckload of horse puckey.
It's so much easier though! :p

When I test something in the lab, it happens right before my eyes, it's great! When someone starts telling me "oh well we lined up these fossils and found startling similarities in genes here and here" that's great but, it just doesn't seem the same as testing something in front of my eyes in a lab.
What you are not getting the that in the process you develop multiple lines of evidence that independently lead to the same conclusion and you make predictions that can be seen to be true or false. That's way more powerful that a bench-top experiment.
We don't see it that way, he only used pseudo science, combined with severe ignorance and faulty reasoning, to attack credible science.
That's a fair appraisal.
 
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